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    WasabiPimpNinja Guest

    My Range Rover so far...

    Hey Guys,
    I've been on here for a little bit and thought it was about time I showed off some pics of my Rover.

    Basically I bought a bog stock 2000 HSE with the idea of making a nice touring car, but still something the Mrs could drive around town in. This is how she looked at the start...



    She was tidy as, only one minor dent, 160,000kms on the clock and no dramas. Drove like a dream compared to my 4" lifted Zook. I had planned on keeping it pretty standard and just enjoying the world of modern/standard vehicles. Unfortunately, three months after I bought her we had a bit of a nasty hail storm over here in Perth. The damage wasn't major but enough to write the car off. I was pretty devastated until the insurance company offered to sell it back to me and give me a cheque for my troubles. Considering the damage and the spare bonnet I had already picked up, I bought her back. This is how she stood minutes after the storm. The pics dont do the dents justice



    With the new found funds to modify, it wasn't long before the bug hit and things started changing. First, I was due for some new tyres, so I bought a set of 265/65/18 Bridgestone Dueler HP's for the Hurricane rims. The only photo I have of these is towing my mates Navara off the track to safety after a snapped tie rod.



    These kept me having fun on the tracks with my mates, but I craved more. I fitted a 2.5" straight through muffler and system from the YPipe back to make it sound more like a V8, but noise wasn't going to cut it. I got hold of Paul at HardRange and started talking business. Not long after a set of Gen III's were on the way and I was down to my local machinist to get some 2" spacers made up.

    More lift required bigger tyres, so I got hold of a set of 275/65/18 Maxxis BigHorns cheap from a mate in Australind. I was going to fit these tyres to the Hurricane rims and run two sets, one mud one street, but after finding out how expensive they were, went looking for a cheaper option. I chatted to my mates at Kewdale Secondhand Tyres and discovered that late model Commodore rims have the same PCD of 5x120mm. The offset is really close at 40-45 compared to the Rovers 45-50. It all seemed to good to be true until we found the centre bore is 69.5mm instead of the Rovers 70.1mm. We had a look at a few rims and found a set that would have more than enough meat to take some machining and got to work. The end result is probably the only set of VE SS Commodore 18" rims with mud tyres. Most certainly the only set fitted to a Range Rover.





    Happy with the new setup I started playing with the EAS to try and get a touch more lift out of her so the tyres wouldn't rub. A quick play netted these results in offroad mode.





    Many discussions with Paul later and I had found the shocks I wanted to run. These are the ones that he is currently testing. I ordered a set for myself and was close to fitting them when I had an airbag failure. Basically, the drivers rear airbag let go and crushed the spacer and twisted the perch on the diff. A phonecall to Paul on a Sunday of a long weekend and he had a replacement in the mail the next working day. You cant ask for better customer service. That was last week. I'm currently in the process of welding new perches onto another diff casing and adjusting the angles etc there. That all needs to be done till I can fit the new shocks and replace the bag/spacer and really take her out for a play.

    More photos will follow as the build progresses. I hope you guys like the car as much as I do.

    Cheers,
    Keels.
    Last edited by WasabiPimpNinja; 24th June 2010 at 08:11 PM. Reason: Typos etc.

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    Thanks for sharing your updates, I think the commodore wheels look great. What was the cause of the airspring failure, was it due to your mods or just a bad unit

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    Nice rig Keels!!!!

    Looking real cool dude! Can't wait to see some articulation-flex shots. Try climbing it onto cars like Paul (Andy's HRA partner) does! By the way, how much did having spacers machined up cost you? And do you think that the breakage "let go" acually had anything to do with your mod's? I think I remember Paul mentioning they were having a good look at the design of their spacers including some sort of slant to help match the changed angles with a higher sitting ride.

    Can't wait for a hail storm over here in Melbourne... 'the pig' (my '95 P38A) is gonna get parked outside from now on!

    Hoo-Roo, Dave

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    It's hard to say why the bag let go. It could have been because of the mods, or it could have been a faulty unit, I'm not 100% sure. The damage sustained to it after it let go makes it hard to determine. Basically the bellow pulled out of the ring at the top of the unit. There are a couple of reasons this migh have happened, but I wouldn't place bets. If it did let go because of the mods, then things have been further modified to prevent the same. If it was because of a faulty bag, well everything much stronger and safer now anyway.

    The spacers I had machined by a mate. Low cost for me (basically materials + a bit extra, came out around the $400 mark). If you were to get them machined without doing a mass production or knowing someone in the game, I could see them being very expensive, probably triple or more what mine cost. Paul tells me his own spacers are coming along nicely and they would be the way to go. I'm totally impatient and couldn't wait to start modding, so designed my own Trust me, I tried to weasel a prototype set out of him, but he was having none of it :P Mine are typical of my style of modifying, brute force and ignorance. Massive chunks of billet 2011 ally wedged in there.

    Had to edit my previous post as well, kept typing Andy instead of Paul. Too many Emu Bitters for me I thinks...

    And thanks for the compliments

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    Nice looking Rangie mate, top work done so far.

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    Ok guys, well the plates are back from the laser cutters and we've welded them onto a spare diff housing. We've moved the mount hole 1/2" further forward and put ~6* of angle forward to counter the horrible angle they get on at full flex. Here are some photos...







    The diff is now back under the car and all bolted up. The new shocks are in the back and everything is ready to go. Still have to put the new shocks in the front and play with the bump stops. I also have to get the suspension level and set up the ride heights as it seems to have spazzed out.

    Hope you enjoy my dodgy engineering

    Cheers,
    Keels.

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    Nice work Keels... still waiting for my set to arrive mate... won't take much to turn these in to a removable set that we can include in the HRA lift kit (as discussed previoulsy), after I've tried to break them in my p38 of course

    Cheers, Paul.
    My toys, projects and write-ups at PaulP38a.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulP38a View Post
    Nice work Keels... still waiting for my set to arrive mate... won't take much to turn these in to a removable set that we can include in the HRA lift kit (as discussed previoulsy), after I've tried to break them in my p38 of course

    Cheers, Paul.
    Thanks Paul,

    I'm just waiting on the other brackets from the laser cutters to make up the bolt on version. Because I didn't mind weld on, we just cut out bits of 5mm plate with the grinder and welded them in there. The bolt on ones will be much more professional hopefully It turns out my "I can do anything I put my mind to" attitude doesn't really work with AutoCAD, a bit more skill is required than "I can draw boobies on coasters at the pub" it turns out :P

    I managed to get the rear shocks in as well. There may be a problem with the concertina rubber sock rubbing against the inner bolt from the rear height sensors. Shouldn't be a major problem, but they may wear through in time. To get the bushes right in the eye, I removed the old bushes from the original shock and cut/tore them apart. There is a little metal bushing in there that is exactly the right size to go inside the new rubber bush provided with the shocks. It's a bit of dicking around but there were no places open to get new bushes. All you need is a 19mm OD and 11mm ID bushing. I'm sure a few suspension places will carry these, or you might even be able to buy it in tube form from a metal distributor. The rubber bushing itself is a little wide for the standard shock mounts, took a few squirts of Lanotec to get it in there, now the car smells like a Kiwi :P I'll let you know how I get on with the front ones when I get the car level and the ride heights set.

    I'm still looking into limiting straps to make sure I dont overflex the rear. I cant believe there are people out there looking for MORE flex, I need to settle mine down :P There are quite a few good things on the market, most of them are weld on though. I'm probably going the weld on approach, but I'll keep my eye out for anything else that might work.

    Anywho, better get back to work, I'll keep you all updated.

    Cheers,
    Keels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WasabiPimpNinja View Post
    To get the bushes right in the eye, I removed the old bushes from the original shock and cut/tore them apart. There is a little metal bushing in there that is exactly the right size to go inside the new rubber bush provided with the shocks. It's a bit of dicking around but there were no places open to get new bushes. All you need is a 19mm OD and 11mm ID bushing. I'm sure a few suspension places will carry these, or you might even be able to buy it in tube form from a metal distributor. The rubber bushing itself is a little wide for the standard shock mounts, took a few squirts of Lanotec to get it in there, now the car smells like a Kiwi :P I'll let you know how I get on with the front ones when I get the car level and the ride heights set.
    yep, I did exactly that with the first set on mine. Just drilled them out of an old knackered set of Boges I had here. The "new" version ships with a poly insert to correct the diameter issue. Re the width of the bush, I gave mine a light rub with sandpaper before squirting WD-40 to ease them in to the brackets.

    I look forward to comparing notes with you.

    Cheers, Paul.
    My toys, projects and write-ups at PaulP38a.com

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    I can feel a lift kit coming on! YIPPEE!

    No luck with that last referred plastics manufacturer Paul... awaiting call backs from another couple I 'cold called' last week. Fingers crossed someone wants to have a crack!

    So how are the snorkel and other bits (sliders, bash plates, etc) coming along anyway? Hopefully not as slow as my 'discreet' winch mount, LOL!!!

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