Seriously considering getting a P38A

klappers · 4th April 2011, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by rovercare

I've only ever owned a GEMS P38, a 95 4L SE, which a borrowed the other day of the current owner, to take measurements for an LS1 conversion, 379K and still going strong, well the headgaskets are leaking, but have been for the past 30K and it'll just get driven till death then a reco long fitted

I'll post a pic of proof when I get my laptop back from the puta aids doctor

so what is the advantage of the thor? Bosch gear with a new, better manifold... Seems to be that the thor stuff has about a 5-6k expense put on it for one year... the 4L suffers from slipped liners though yeah?

**Hoges** · 4th April 2011, 08:39 PM

Hi Klappers, seems we both posted at 9.19pm... you may have missed my comments on Pge 3 FWIW

klappers · 5th April 2011, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Hoges

Hi Klappers, seems we both posted at 9.19pm... you may have missed my comments on Pge 3 FWIW

Cheers for that mate. That was more the information that I was looking for!!! Thank you very much. I knew that there had to be more to it than a simple change over of manifold and injection...

4 pin diff sounds great... That would make it MUCH stronger and what @$@*()$@^ Land Rover should have done in the first place with all of their diffs!

**Keithy P38** · 5th April 2011, 05:57 PM

My bad on the GEMS stuff in the Classic and Disco - was under the impression they were too!

The Bosch equipped P38's also have leather armrests (compared to plastic), updated stereo system too! May have been a minor change to the seat stitching too but i'm not that clued up!

Cheers
Keithy

**glenhendry** · 6th April 2011, 06:09 AM

Sounds like we need a sticky on this. The changes during BMW ownership when THORs arrived appear more than just the new donk. Perhaps I can make a start here and you cleverer chaps can add to the list and a moderator can consider it as a sticky?

If moderators dont agree that it would be useful for a sticky here, then please update my mistakes anyway (and add to it) and I will weld it into Wikipedia.

Changes for post-99 P38As:
- THOR engine with Bosch electrics (change from Lucas)
- BMW 7 series wiring harnesses
- 4 pin front diff (up from 2)
- Front traction control (up from only rear)
- Leather armrests? (up from plastic)
- 7 seam stitched seat bases
- ECU moves to aft of EAS compressor rather than aft of main battery
- Clear turn signals
- Upgraded sound system (300w, 12 speakers)?
- Removal of transmission dipstick
- Leather door arm rests

Differences in Australian P38As to other countries???:
- Single exhaust systems, not dual

**Scouse** · 6th April 2011, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by glenhendry

- Clear turn signals

They came with the 2000 model, not the 1999.

**p38arover** · 6th April 2011, 08:10 AM

When did the blacked out headlights arrive? With the clear turn signals?

**Scouse** · 6th April 2011, 08:13 AM

Yes, same time (from YA430702 to be exact).

**Scouse** · 6th April 2011, 08:16 AM

The tailgate release button also changed to the chrome type with the 2000MY.

**p38arover** · 6th April 2011, 08:18 AM

Interior door releases also chromed on Thor - maybe from the VIN you quoted, Scouse.

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