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    Question EAS Workaround.... bad idea?

    Ok, please tell me why this is a bad idea...

    So my EAS, being EAS, has been a pain in the butt for the last 6 months. Basically for some unkown reason the compressor wont kick in when the suspension is down. When trying to raise the car I get one solid and one flashing light on the dash ride height display. So for last 6 months almost every time ive driven the car i have to spend 10 minutes pressurising the sytem using this method (Manually Activate the Range Rover EAS Compressor - YouTube), ie by bypassing the relay and waiting untill the car raises off the bump stops.

    This method works great but is very time consuming but more importantly it annoys the hell out of my partner, especially when she has to do it herself in the shopping center carpark.... open the bonnet, pull out the relay, insert wires, wait for pressure etc...

    So my idea is to permanently remove the relay and run wiring from the fuse box to a rocker switch mounted on the dash in the car. so when the system needs air i can start the compressor without getting out of the drivers seat just by flicking the switch and then manually turning it off after a few minutes when normal ride height is achieved...


    it seems simple enough...

    i assume running the compressor this way will bypass the high temperature switch? will it also bypass the high pressure switch?

    Any thoughts?

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    Why not just fix the problem "A happy wife is a peaceful life"

    Otherwise, tap into the wires below the relay box and run a switch into the cabin so it can be done with relay in place, sitting in vehicle...

    And no, its not good to bypass and use the switch all the time - so make it momentary so when you let it go, it cuts off.

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    How come it wont run the compressor? does it happily run the compressor once pressure is up after you have jumpered it or does it simply nerever run the compressor?

    Eas ecu? driver pack on the valve block? Faulty temp sensor on pump?

    Do you have a obd-serial cable and eas software to check for codes?

    Its not jusst a bad relay is it?

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    eas workaround

    Idealy all p38's running air suspension should have the manual air recovery system fitted.
    If you have it with taps on the lines, you can just turn off the taps, pump up the 4 valves to around 60lbs, pull the plug on the pump inside the box and off you go.
    My son has been doing this for a while and it works fine off road with a bit more pressure, but it must be even from side to side.
    There doesnt seem to be much loss of articulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsp View Post
    How come it wont run the compressor? does it happily run the compressor once pressure is up after you have jumpered it or does it simply nerever run the compressor?

    Eas ecu? driver pack on the valve block? Faulty temp sensor on pump?

    Do you have a obd-serial cable and eas software to check for codes?

    Its not jusst a bad relay is it?

    Nah it's "seemingly" completely random. Sometimes once pressure is up it will work fine. Sometimes even when down entire system might run perfectly for a day or two, then it's back to square one. Counts out faulty relay. An "expert" here in Perth tried to convince me it was the temp sensor on the pump so I would but one of his reconditioned pumps, but grounding the temp sensor at the pump doesn't get it to run either... Have had it checked with obd serial cable and software but didn't come up with anything definitive... Could be valve block or ecu...don't know how to check that though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by parasnoop67 View Post
    Idealy all p38's running air suspension should have the manual air recovery system fitted.
    If you have it with taps on the lines, you can just turn off the taps, pump up the 4 valves to around 60lbs, pull the plug on the pump inside the box and off you go.
    My son has been doing this for a while and it works fine off road with a bit more pressure, but it must be even from side to side.
    There doesnt seem to be much loss of articulation.
    Thanks for the tip. Yep it's something I'm definitely I'm looking into...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Otherwise, tap into the wires below the relay box and run a switch into the cabin so it can be done with relay in place, sitting in vehicle...

    And no, its not good to bypass and use the switch all the time - so make it momentary so when you let it go, it cuts off.
    Good point on using a switch that 'let's go'. Can take a few minutes to pump up though, I think my finger might get sore

    What's the advantage to tapping into the wires and leaving the relay in place?

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    You are a patient man if you have let this go on for 6 months.
    What have you tested? Its easy enough to test the pump ( which seems to work) Thermal cut-out ,pressure switch and swap over one of the other relays.
    I have had issues before which was simply a bad connection on the compressor plug.
    I have a good spare compressor here (not for sale) if you wanted to to come over and do a quick swap to test it if you think thats the problem. I have also bypassed the cutout on the compressor before if thats your problem its an easy solder job. I have the eas software and lead here if you dont have them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wayneg View Post
    You are a patient man if you have let this go on for 6 months.
    What have you tested? Its easy enough to test the pump ( which seems to work) Thermal cut-out ,pressure switch and swap over one of the other relays.
    I have had issues before which was simply a bad connection on the compressor plug.
    I have a good spare compressor here (not for sale) if you wanted to to come over and do a quick swap to test it if you think thats the problem. I have also bypassed the cutout on the compressor before if thats your problem its an easy solder job. I have the eas software and lead here if you dont have them.
    Patient? yes. Bloody frustrated? yes, yes.

    Thats a great offer and I think I might take you up on it if its not too much of an imposition...

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