Great work. You have summarised my confusing investigation nicely. Im still in for group buy.
So far I have the following to share...
Bursons want $430 for the Superpro P38A 4X4 spec kit (KIT0090K). Supercheap/Repco don't list it. Paddock Spares UK want $278 for same kit.
I am hoping we can source this kit directly at some form of discount.
A local (Melbourne) supplier estimates $450-500 for a complete OEM rubber kit. He guess-timated the genuine LR item(s) would likely total $800-900. I have a couple more OZ suppliers to call for pricing tomorrow. Will update again when I can.
E-bay UK sellers Island 4X4 have on offer 2 types of Britpart kit. Yellow and black which are both around $100. From what I can tell the black appears to be the softer version and requires no special tools to fit - further investigation required. Strangely the cheapest kit appear to have the most components with shock bushes also provided.
Bearmach also have a nice bluey-purple set which I have yet to understand pricing for.
P38spares.co.uk have an orange "Genuine Poly Bush" kit for $260- These may also be available direct from the manufacturer and are avail. in dynamic or comfort. Poly Bush seem to promote themselves as the original and the best.
British Atlantic have a selection of rubber OEM bushes but not everything. However, their prices look good and they also have std factory body/chasis blocks for a buck and a half each.
None of the above includes freight.
The majority of feedback documented about P38's with PU kits put through is negative, but a lot of it is based on what so and so said not individuals experiences. In saying that the coments from those that have used them seem to be split down the middle as to if they are good or bad for P38's. In general the PU's seem to get a good rap from those that mainly use their cars on road... in off road applications they tend to wear down more easily and are not generally supple enough. Some also point out they need to be checked/lubed on a yearly basis if they are to continue to work well.
However, there are positive comments here and there for specific types and uses. Mainly the softer "comfort"style ones.
Thats enough for me for tonight, I am bushed!![]()
Hoo-Roo,
Dave.
Great work. You have summarised my confusing investigation nicely. Im still in for group buy.
Now: 2005 L322 Vogue 4.4 M62TU (Black)
Before: 2000 P38A HSE 4.6 - stately capability | 2008 Kluger KX-S | 2004 Forester | 2000 Yamaha XJR1300 | 1993 VR Calais | 1974 HQ Statesman - 308 V8 | HT | HK
Managed to source a really good local price on the Super Pro Kit. We will need a volunteer in QLD to pick them up, but essentially it is now as good as a UK price at $350- The kit will include all bushes for radius arms, panhard rod and front sway bar. I do not think we can do better than this, so just reconfirm for me if you are in on this one.
I have yet to compile and work out the final cost for the kit of standard rubber items from British Atlantic. Will update when I have the best package and price. Note: Local places can NOT compete on price of these.
Beware, I am led to believe these are not as easy a DIY fit as the PU ones. Some pressing (off and on) and use of special tools is required.
Body rubbers are also avail. from these guys and pretty cheap at around $1.50 so can do at the same time.
I am also going to get some other steering/front end bits and pieces I need (like tie rod ends and ball joints) to maximise freight charges. Let me know about any other smallish/lightish bits and bob's you may want to add.
Hoo-Roo,
Dave.
I can help out with a Brisbane pickup of the kit.
I am still wondering why the Britpart kit (which looks to include shock bush mounts) is only around $100 when this kit omits the shock mounts and is ~$350. Aren't the shock mounts considered one of the more important ones for harsh rides and road noise?
The answer may well be that the SuperPro kit is just much better, and if so then I am ok.
Now: 2005 L322 Vogue 4.4 M62TU (Black)
Before: 2000 P38A HSE 4.6 - stately capability | 2008 Kluger KX-S | 2004 Forester | 2000 Yamaha XJR1300 | 1993 VR Calais | 1974 HQ Statesman - 308 V8 | HT | HK
Thanks for offer of pick up GlenHendry. As far as price diff I understand it to be quality of engineering and materials. However, I can't find any independent comparo's to get specifics. With the shock bushes my opinion is that they are replaced with every shock change and hence should be fresh(ish). I would think people would be doing airbag and shock updates before bushes. I can see that perhaps some have done their life's service before the shocks give out, but expect that would be an exception. I guess it's probably like tie rod and ball joints they have varying roles and life expectancies,
In saying that, I am no engineer. Perhaps it's something to hit an SME with.
Hoo-Roo,
Dave.
Been slack on this one lately, will finalise this weekend.
Hoo-Roo,
Dave.
ok put me in for the P38 set
Hi again,
Sorry for delays, see below and confirm your order (or any queries) to me via PM please. I will then advise account details for payment and place orders.
Thanks for your patience,
Dave.
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WHAT’S ON OFFER.
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OFFER 1. SuperPro PU P38 Suspension Bush Kit - $336
Includes: All PU bushes for radius arms, panhard rod and front sway bar.
Note: 100% Australian made
OFFER 2. OEM All Rubber P38 Suspension Bush Kit - $140
Includes: All Rubber bushes for panhard rod, front sway bar and Radius Arms.
Note: This kit requires special press and LR adapter.
OFFER 3. OEM Rubber and PU P38 Suspension Bush Kit - $169
Includes: Rubber bushes for panhard rod and front sway bar and PU Radius Arm bushes. Note: This kit maintains as much OEM rubber as possible whilst also including “comfort” level PU radius arm bushes to negate the need for special LR fitting tools.
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WHO’S IN.
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DT-P38 DEAL 3 X 1 set.
RovinRangie SUPER PRO X 1
PaulP38a SUPER PRO X 1
glenhendry SUPER PRO X 1
Redandy3575 SUPER PRO X 1
51jay SUPER PRO X 1
P38arover Offer 3 x 1 set
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Last edited by p38arover; 9th March 2012 at 08:12 PM. Reason: Edited Ron's order
Hoo-Roo,
Dave.
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