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    My first Rangey

    Hi guys,

    Bought my first rangey a few weeks ago, a 1999 4.0, now fondly known as "the big girl". I wish I'd found this forum before I'd bought, didn't know about all the engine/cooling issues. Funnily enough though, I don't think it would have stopped me, just maybe look a bit closer at what I was buying.

    I'm reasonably handy with the spanners and I think I'll have my work cut out. I'm losing coolant at a fair rate, about 1L per week (not doing many k's though), so keeping a close eye on that. It appears to be leaking from the back of the engine, left hand side I think, can't see properly. Also, losing oil from the front, either crank seal or front cover. So I'm planning to tackle both issues in one go. Just now putting together a list of spares and tools I'll need.

    Also EAS issues with the height going up and down whenever she's stopped. No pattern to it that I've cottoned onto so far.

    This forum is excellent in getting familiar with the problems and solutions, so glad to be a part of it.

    One quick question. How do I do a search on the forum to focus in on the info you're after. I've done searches using keywords, but can they be used with " " or + etc to find phrases or groups of words in one thread. I seem to get the same results whatever I try and a lot of seemingly unrelated threads.

    Cheers
    rolo

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    Welcome aboard
    The search function is a bit random but you seem to have got the idea. Try searching in the good oil section and diagnostics for more possible hits and dont be afraid to ask here.
    Hopefully your water loss is a weeping head gasket, as you have no doubt read on no account let the car overheat as this could be very expensive.
    Front crank oil seal leaks seem standard, mine marks its territory in the garage with a drip or two every day but it never impacts on the oil level so I live with it.
    The EAS self levels when the car is left so random heights can occur. Check for leaks on the airsprings and valve block with soapy water.

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    Welcome aboard. It has not been mentioned yet, drop into the shop and by the Rave CD. A complete manual on CD and reading the thing on the shop, the sales help to offset the cost of running the site. I have had my P38 for a couple of years now and feel confident to bend spanners on some things now so have just ordered Rave for myself.

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    Rolo, its quite possible that the height is changing according to speed. More than 30s over 80km/h and it drops to Motorway. Under (I think) 55 for >30s and it goes to standard.

    There are a LOT of interesting, informative and very unselfishly helpful people here. That said, read the owner's manual before you drive around too much. Otherwise, you will think it has a mind of it's own! There is logic to what's going on. I read mine cover to cover a couple of times and I still come up with some dumb questions. I've had mine 2 weeks now.

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    Hi Rolo, welcome to the forum, certainly a great place to find out all sorts of stuff about your Rangie.
    Can you describe what the EAS is doing in a bit more detail?
    The EAS sometimes does things that can appear to be a fault, when it may be working normally.
    When parked, the EAS tries to level itself, sometimes you can hear it go round and round until it finally lowers itself to the ground.

    I recently replaced a leaking airspring, (very easy job to do), it had a slight leak, but only when the spring was at certain heights. The rubber on the spring can perish over time and cause slow leaks. In the mornings, sometimes mine was down on the bump stops, other times it was still fully inflated. As soon as I replaced the sping, the problem was solved. If you do have a leaky spring, you only need to replace the leaky one, not the pair.
    Here's a really good read about EAS:
    Air Suspension Faults, Diagnosis and Repair

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    Good stuff there Rolo.
    If the cooling system is in good order you will not have any issues at all.
    I have had my P38 over 10yrs and never had any cooling issues.
    Most of the EAS problems once identified are relatively easy to fix.
    I see you are in Sydney if you are inner west im happy to have a look at things some time for you and offer up some advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROLO View Post
    Hi guys,

    I'm losing coolant at a fair rate, about 1L per week (not doing many k's though), so keeping a close eye on that. It appears to be leaking from the back of the engine, left hand side I think, can't see properly.

    Also EAS issues with the height going up and down whenever she's stopped. No pattern to it that I've cottoned onto so far.
    The coolant leak could be the valley gasket - common on these LR V8s.

    The EAS - try driving around with it locked in to standard ride height and see how you go.

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    I don't know what just happened. I typed a detailed reply to answer the many helpful responses and it appears to have disappeared into the ether after pressing the submit reply button. I obviously did something wrong. Will try again later.

    In the mean time, thanks for all your helpful replies.

    cheers
    rolo

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    A hint - It's often safer to type up your post in 'Word" and then copy and paste it into the "Reply" panel on AULRO.

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    Busy weekend so only just getting back to have another go at detailing the issues and following Grumbles advice, I’m doing it on Word in case I lose it gain.

    The EAS issues are mainly when parked. Sometimes she'll go down to the bumpstops, other times its high at the back and yet others it lists over to one side, usually passenger side. The latter probably due to me getting out on the driver’s side and taking some weight off. It’s all quite random. I’ve also noticed sometimes if I open a door to retrieve something after beng left sometime, the solenoids start to click and suspension adjusts itself after closing doors again. High speed settings appear to operate normally. I have had an EAS fault message about 3 times when driving, but the suspension does not seem to adjust to bumpstops and it re-sets after switching off for a few minutes. At least one of these occasions I’m pretty sure was due to the tailgate not being properly closed. I have soapy water tested for leaks, all except the rear springs and probably not all connections inside the EAS solenoid valve box.

    I hope the coolant leak is only the valley manifold gasket. I’m planning to accumulate a few spares and start taking bits off until I find something. I’m starting to have nightmares about the blown head gaskets, slipped liners and cracked blocks.

    One of the reasons I bought this RR was that it has had quite a few things done over the last few years. It’s had head gaskets, camshafts, rocker gear, air springs and compressor all done, so I didn’t expect to be doing this so soon. Anyway, it’s a good opportunity to get to know the old girl. Thanks for the offer RR P38, I may have to take you up on it. I’m in the Shire, God’s country.

    One other thing, I managed to get hold of a copy of Microcat but it keeps telling me it’s out of date and won’t open up. Any ideas?

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