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    Advantages of Gen 3 Airbags

    Hi

    First off sorry to the WA guys I did not know you went on a trip this weekend or I would have tagged along (next time) Instead I went down to the Dwellingup area and after a good day out and a far amount of bush bashing I got a hole in my Drivers Side rear airbag

    Is it worth replacing all four airbags to gen3? or to save money should I just try and source a replacement? I was made redundant last month so cash is tight. (or if you know of any jobs going?)

    What are the big advantages of the Gen 3's vs stock? Does anyone in Australia Stock them? Where is the best place to go?


    Cheers all

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    You'll pay the same buying direct from Arnotts as you will in Aus. $1k to your door, probably less now seeing as the dollar is good!

    Better ride, thicker bag, extra length for wheel travel purposes, wider usable inflation area (about 1.5 times the diameter when inflated) - all translates to a more comfortable and less bouncy ride. I would never go standard bags again after buying Gen III's, there is simply no comparison!

    Plus the extra thickness also translates to better durability (think long-term quality).

    Keithy

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    Given your unfortunate situation on the work front and if money is a concern you can get a full set of dunlops from island 4 x 4 in the UK for a lot less. When the tide turns you can always replace with the arnotts g 3 and have a decent back up set All comes down to cash at hand.

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    Agree with the comments above.

    I like the Gen 3's a lot, and recommend them to anyone that asks. I have used them on both my off-road and on-road P38's.

    To reiterate one of Keithy's pro's for the Gen 3's... it is the extra travel in them that sets them apart, meaning they are more forgiving in articulation than standard bags/springs. Do not confuse extra travel with extra height

    Having said that, I see merit in Peter's suggestion to get standard bags for now and save your pennies for when you can afford the approx $1k to buy them direct from Arnott Industries in Florida. I'd suggest just getting the rear pair instead of all four, assuming your existing front bags are ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulP38a View Post
    it is the extra travel in them that sets them apart, meaning they are more forgiving in articulation than standard bags/springs. Do not confuse extra travel with extra height
    So what you are saying is that it is not wise to mess with the height settings?

    I take my P38 off road quite a bit and tackle some of the tougher tracks that unmodified Jap cars drive past. Extra lift could be useful. Particularly as I have put slightly bigger Mud tyres on (255/70R16) Do you not recommend this?

    Who to buy from in Australia?

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    If you want lift you can tweak your height settings with EAS unlock or any of the diagnostic tools available. I used my faultmate to gain an extra inch in standard and high. You could also add an inch or so to your height sensors and get it that way.

    I did this when I had standard bags on with no issues, with the gen III's there is heaps of room to move. As you do, I tackle the harder tracks - all the time (my P38 is my weekend warrior) and I'm running the 255/70/16 km2's.

    Keithy

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    Had exactly the same problem myself over the weekend. We were up the High Country and the rear right bag didn't like the cold and started to leak.
    The cheapest way if they fit is to get the replacement bellows from island4x4; they're listed for the classic though Air Spring Rear Rubber Bellow NTC9820DPH Island 4x4 - Specialists in Land Rover and Range Rover Parts and accessories for all models. UK and worldwide mail order.

    Airbagman in QLD is quite expencive at $195 +$18 delivery to Bendigo for each bellow.

    You can get gen3's cheaper than a thousand. Gen III Front Air Ride Suspension Springs Front Rear | eBay
    They're not listed as an arnott product though....

    I'm sort of in the same spot as yourself. I want eventually to go the gen3, and the +2inch britpart shocks. But; head gaskets to do first - with a go-fast cam

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    Hi,

    I managed to get a set of 4 airbags direct from Arnott for under $1000 and delivered to my door in Perth WA in just 4 days.

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    It seems there are a few manafacturers doing a gen 3 style air spring now. Westar, Touring Tech, and others. - Or are they just Arnott sold under a different brand...?\

    Arnott also sell replacement bladers - https://www.arnottindustries.com/par...d22_gid94.html

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    I got advice a while back that unless it is branded as Arnott's it is not Arnott's. Seems that the Chinese copiers have taken notice of the market for air springs and "borrowed" the Gen3 name.
    Same thing happened to RSW Solutions Rover All Comms diagnostic tool. The copiers were selling the tool, but the unfortunate souls who bought them could get no support or install the RSW software as they purchased non-genuine items.

    As for me, I will be sticking with the genuine Arnott bags... at least until I see a compelling reason to go to another genuine manufacturers product, not a copier.
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