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Thread: Decisions. To fix blend motors or to buy

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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    I heard the base model in the UK had manual control and didn't have the HEVAC control panel. I've never seen any pix though.

    Edit: here we are:

    My guess is that they are still an electronic connection (not mechanical) and use the same blend motors though. I know my Oz spec Nissan 200sx S15 had a manual control but soime jap spec ones had climate control. Both was still electronic, with the only difference being a feedback/control in the climate control, along with the temp sensor and sunlight sensor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poleonpom View Post
    I recall reading somewhere that someone was looking at using more robust motors used in model airplanes. The blend motors are cheaply made and unreliable (and yet expensive to replace), so this seemed to me a really good idea. Can any of our electronic minded members come up with a plan?
    Hi

    I remember reading that as well.

    Range Rover P38 Maintenance repair improvements and tips learned by experience by ownership.

    I will have a look at it when I get some time, I wish I had kept the two good motors when I replaced mine !

    Here is

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFarmer View Post
    Hi

    I remember reading that as well.

    Range Rover P38 Maintenance repair improvements and tips learned by experience by ownership.

    I will have a look at it when I get some time, I wish I had kept the two good motors when I replaced mine !

    Here is

    Steve
    After some thinking I'm likely to go down the path of the Britpart ones. I was almost convinced to buy quality but.

    Reasons being that they are 150 dollars cheaper and I'll likely repair the current ones as use for spares. Well at least keep them I case I get the problem again. And that a faulty blend motor does not stop the car. I will never go cheap on parts that could stop the car.

    I've figured that the first time will take longer due to inexperience and having to modify parts, but the second time will be more familiar and have already dealt with the ducting... So shouldn't be a bad job.

    Or am I kidding myself, and the second time will still be a big job. Anyone done it for the second time after following the shortcut method both times??

    I'm waiting on a shipping quote but likely order all my bits shortly.

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    Hi,
    I replaced the Blend Motors in my 96 model P38 about 5 years ago but went to Peugeot for them. Can't remember the model but the parts guys knew what I needed. May have been a 404.
    They are the same except for the plug. Also they are half the price, have brass gears, a stronger motor and have the same mountings and fittings.
    Have never had any more problems since fitting them myself.
    The colour coding is the same but you will have to cut the cable and fit the old Range Rover plug. No big deal, just take your time, solder and insulate the joints. I think the motors were about $130.00 AUD each.
    The Genuine ones are junk and have plastic gears and a sluggish motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFarmer View Post
    Hi

    I remember reading that as well.

    Range Rover P38 Maintenance repair improvements and tips learned by experience by ownership.

    I will have a look at it when I get some time, I wish I had kept the two good motors when I replaced mine !

    Here is

    Steve
    That was it Steve,

    I'd love to change out the crappy cheap blend motors with a set of solid and long lasting alternatives. Surely someone on the forum knows how to achieve this and create a "how to" that even I can follow?

    Jonathan

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    Hi

    It seems Shirl may have hit upon something here

    This thread even mentions the RR use of the same motors !

    405 Heater flap motor

    Looks like 405, 407 and various Citroens use the same motor

    And a quick search reveals our resident RoverLord Ron Beckett made this discovery

    http://www.rangerovers.net/repairdet...lendmotor.html

    Steve
    Last edited by TheTree; 27th May 2014 at 08:27 AM. Reason: additions

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    Just a thought

    When my temp blenders went, I used a hacksaw blade with the teeth filed down. Cut a slot in the side of the centre console and put a small nut with heat shrink to control the flap. While I was at it I also took out the duct to the rear, from the drivers side and replaced it with a vacuum hose. Now when I have to play around in there I just flop it out of the way. Works a treat. Now all I have to do is remodel the directional flap control. That motor went. I think the strain of a stiff flap did that one. Oh well on with the show.
    John

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    Just a thought

    I thought I had more to say buy I don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirldownunder View Post
    Hi,
    I replaced the Blend Motors in my 96 model P38 about 5 years ago but went to Peugeot for them. Can't remember the model but the parts guys knew what I needed. May have been a 404.
    They are the same except for the plug. Also they are half the price, have brass gears, a stronger motor and have the same mountings and fittings.
    Have never had any more problems since fitting them myself.
    The colour coding is the same but you will have to cut the cable and fit the old Range Rover plug. No big deal, just take your time, solder and insulate the joints. I think the motors were about $130.00 AUD each.
    The Genuine ones are junk and have plastic gears and a sluggish motor.
    That's really valuable information Shirl, thanks.
    I agree with you Steve, I think Shirl has hit the blend motors mother lode.
    I for one am going to be looking into this. Funny, with these mods and the audi a6 heating matrix we'll have heat made by the English, delivered by the Germans and directed by the French...
    Jonathan

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    The heater system in the P38 is made by Valeo, a French company:
    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valeo"]Valeo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
    so there's probably other cars around with a similar blend motor set up.
    Scott

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