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    derpomz Guest

    I dont understand.

    It seems that various p38,s have different engine bits.

    I have looked under the bonnet of mine and at pictures of other engines, and there seems to be a great deal of difference.

    Let me set an example, and i have no idea of the names, so i have made them up as i go along.

    Just next to fuse box under the bonnet, there is what looks like a big black ball with the picture of a book on it, what is that.

    Where the stepper motor, or whatever, is supposed to be , its not and what on earth a plenum is or where its supposed to be, i havent a clue.

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    Time to buy a RAVE CD.

    The black ball is the hydraulic pressure accumulator which is on the brake pump. It will eventually need to be replaced.

    http://www.rangerovers.net/repairdet...cumulator.html

    There are two engine series. From 1994-1999 the engine is commonly called GEMS which refers to the Generic Engine Management System that controls the ignition and fuel injection. The GEMS engines have a very simple design intake chamber (plenum).

    images below from RoverParts website.



    From 1999 onwards, the engines are commonly called Thor or sometimes Bosch. The latter refers to the Bosch Motronics engine management system. The intake on these is sometimes called a bunch of snakes as it is much more complex.



    See http://www.roverparts.com/TechTips/boschvsgems.cfm
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    Mate

    You need to go to the page below and click the first link for a zipped RAVE

    http://p38.hts.com.au/rangie_websites.html


    It will unzip on your computer and all you need is Adobe Acrobat reader

    Then many of the mysteries can be solved

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    Or click on Shop on the menu bar above and buy a copy there.

    https://www.davesitshop.com/emporium...egory&cat_id=3
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    Also read every related bit you can find on Range Rovers .net

    RANGEROVERS.NET HOME

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    Two years ago I didn't know any terminology on our trucks....after reading rangeroversnet over and over I am now quite up with most issues and terms....also most people on that net only tend to help if you seem to at least read up on that particular issue.....fair enough I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daf11e View Post
    Two years ago I didn't know any terminology on our trucks....after reading rangeroversnet over and over I am now quite up with most issues and terms....also most people on that net only tend to help if you seem to at least read up on that particular issue.....fair enough I think.
    I didn't think I was that bad when I was there!
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    I am on that site and have been reading extensivley from it, but i anm still confused.

    People seem to have some many ideas what is wrong and whats not with certain vehicles.

    I ahevnt had this car long and i am starting to get a be sick of finding out what goes wrong and the various methods of fixing them. Some are extremely useful and then you have the argumentative types, like in all things, who disagree.

    I am at the stage now that if somebody offered me a reasonable price for it, my Rangie would be gone. What with my wife not liking it and little things going wrong, i am reluctant to drive the bloody thing. Its a pity because i really wanted one, the mielage i am getting is far better than what people talk about. I have had the roof fixed and replaced some parts, but where does it stop.

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    derpomz

    Don't get too stressed about all the problems posted on the forums. After all how many people actually post saying it's all working? The forums can be a wealth of knowledge, here on AULRO far more than most!! There are some forum members on here that have a wealth of knowledge way beyond anything a lay person will ever likely acquire.
    If it's any consolation, my wife also does not like like the Rangey (she prefers her Captiva? I know, don't get me stared ). But in saying that, when we venture off road apart from the usual comments of you'll never get up that, over that, through that, etc, aside from the pale complexion at the other side she will admit to being surprised at how well it go's off road. And not once has she mentioned being uncomfortable with the seating or ride, she just doesn't like the large bonnet. As for towing, absolutely fantastic! If I try to tow the boat (around 2 tonne) with my X-Trail (it has a legal towing capacity of 2 tonne) I usually get asked why I'm not using the Rangie? The X-Trail is a company car and all fuel etc is paid for but it struggles big time! So 99% of the time I use the Rangie. As for general road use, it's usually friends or family when visiting from interstate and our (grown up) children who drive it when their cars are off the road for whatever reason.
    Overall it is a safe reliable car that is capable of going virtually anywhere in a level of comfort that is achieved by few. Hang in there, once you get over the little niggly bits and get some regular maintenance happening you won't be disappointed.

    Gary

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    P38arover I wasn't suggesting anyone was bad.....just felt that continuous same questions without a little research wore on some...I currently have a head gasket issue and have read your thread....GOOD STUFF.

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