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    That tank has the same retaining ring as mine. But I don't know if that's a Thor pump.

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    That's a Thor pump, the single male fuel line fitting goes into the nylon section to the right and the plugged fitting is a breather. I compared it to the spare D2 Thor assembly I have.

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    That eBay tank has had a breather welded onto the side by the looks of it - there's weld residue around the fitting (to my untrained eye).
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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    That's a Thor pump, the single male fuel line fitting goes into the nylon section to the right and the plugged fitting is a breather. I compared it to the spare D2 Thor assembly I have.
    Thanks for that. I wonder why that screw-in retaining ring will seal a Thor pump but not my GEMS pump. Does the Thor pump use a different sealing ring in the tank to the GEMS?
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    Ron, here's the differences between GEMS & Thor pumps:
    Rover V8 Fuel Pump - Efi Engines at www.rimmerbros.co.uk





    The P38 pumps are the two on the right hand side. The Thor pump seal appears to fit between the pump & the locking ring.


    I wonder if the GEMS pump in the Thor tank would seal better that way?


    I might have to buy an NTC5859 & find out.
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    I'll see if I can get one of those sealing rings from KLR tomorrow. It would be easier to check on your tank while it's still not fitted.
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    To add to the confusion, the workshop manual appears to show the seal sitting under the pump:



    This also shows 2 fuel lines at the pump though. The above photo is for "Advanced Evaps" cars which I take to mean Thor models.


    A quick look for NTC5859 (Thor pump/tank seal) shows a seal similar in design to NTC5858 (GEMS):



    Maybe just ask KLR if you can have a look at a seal - if it goes under the pump, it might be back to square one.


    Can you ask if they have an old Thor pump? That way we can do some measurements & see what we might need to do to make it fit.
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    Thanks Ron. I'm pretty sure old mate is in South Oz (much closer to you than I).

    I've told old mate I'll pass up the offer, save to say I haven't been on the forum today...

    What are your thoughts mate?

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    Brad at KLR said they didn't have any old Thor pumps. He's ordered in a new seal for me. I'll get there today or tomorrow.
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    If the tank is still there in a month, I'll let you know, perhaps I could have him deliver to you and I might be ok to take your offer of a swap?

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