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    Fraser Island air bag. ..

    Just got back last night. Had a ripper run, got bogged, watched others get bogged, watched the kids have a ball and didn't drown anyone in lake mackenzie.

    The only issues we had were a blown fuse, and a gen 3 airbag that slipped out from under the crimp ring (and I got laughed at for taking spare airsprings).

    Changed the spring at camp, and picked up a newy (oe though) at british offroad on the sunshine coast as my spare airbag is 288, 000k old and looks like it.

    Can't upload photos atm.




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    Not good to hear about you popping a gen 3, but good to hear you carry spare. I also carry a spare front and rear stock bag for that just in case moment. Sure beats the bump stops.

    So any idea why the gen 3 busted out? Touch wood, but mine have treated me well and I've flexed them a lot with the extended shocks.

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    Ahh just re-read your post. Slipped out of the ring. So over extended I guess. But hasn't happened before for you huh

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    Had an argument last year when the local tyre bloke wanted to raise the vehicle on a 2 post ...a.) it is deemed as unsafe by LR and b.) although I have OE airbags, the prospect of replacing a popping a bag by over extension was not on my to-do list for the day...
    I have wondered about retention cables to limit articulation ...
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    Wouldn't lifting a wheel off road be the same as lifting on a two post hoist though seeing the shocks limit it? Except only wheel at once.

    I understand the eas needs to be turned off to stop the air being let out of the bags (the eas trying to lower it) and crimping/folding the bag when lowered.

    I know there's cases of over extension of gen 3's in unexpected situations, Benji above and Keith (on stock shocks and no spacers at the time) as well, but what I don't understand is how I haven't had a problem with the extended shocks (+ 3 inch extension at the bags) andonly 1 inch spacers under the bags. It obviously happens, just curious how it's possible without a faulty crimp ring or something.

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    I agree with you Pete, seems too good to be true!

    Was it a right rear that you popped benji?

    Cheers
    Keithy

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    Actually it was Kiethy! Coincidence. ..? I think it was pulled out on the rear of the bag. . .

    With my lift (1" springs blocks too) the rear bags have 1" further to go before they reach Arnotts maximum specified length, so it's a safe setup.

    I got hopelessly stuck (VERY different to bring bogged!) that morning and the rear right was stretched out a bit, but definately not all the way.

    However, travelling over those sandy tracks you do top out the rear shocks occasionally, but they're still under their maximum. ...

    Looking at the this morning I noticed the crimp ring has sliped down hard against the bottom piston.... I'm yet to check the other springs.





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    Its a Gen III thing to pop right hand rears... All the ones I've seen/heard have been right rear.

    Email arnotts, they should replace it F.O.C. Maybe don't mention the lift though!

    Cheers
    Keithy

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    My ripped OEM air spring was right rear too!!

    The black plastic D shaped do well at the bottom that hold the retaining clip snapped off the piston.
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    And my Gen 2 that let go was right rear as well.

    I am putting a set of gen 3 under it next but going to try the Chinese copy bags after that if I have more issues. I don't think any of them should actually let go - ever. Even if you are hanging the whole bloody diff in the air.

    They can support the weight of the car from above at varying levels of compression... they should be able to carry a half share of diff.
    Hoo-Roo,

    Dave.

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