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    Behaving well

    After filling the 4 airsprings via the schrader valves, because the vehicle had sat undriven for nearly 2 months during which the suspension had dropped, I drove the P38 4.0 on a 150Km round trip to town from my place in the bush yesterday.

    No faults to mention and that was a pleasant change from the 4.6 HSE that I owned some years ago when every trip was a nightmare.

    Seats were comfortable. HEVAC working well - 6 degrees outside and 20 degrees inside. External mirrors were a bit inclined to jump out of alignment but on those rotten dirt/gravel roads that was only to be expected. I do not like the ABS brakes but I'm not tempted to change to a booster, so I'll just put up with them as is

    Overall, pretty pleased with this fairly cheap purchase.

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    Hope you like the traction control then They are run through the same system/ecu. You COULD disable it but I guess you'll keep warnings on the dash...

    Cheers,
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    PS enjoy the P38!

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    They really are a pleasure to drive when they are behaving themselves, glad it's going well for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterH View Post
    They really are a pleasure to drive when they are behaving themselves, glad it's going well for you!
    Yes

    The last one - a 4.6 HSE kept overheating and the EAS was a constant problem at over $100K purchase price. This one cost me less than $5k and I know which is the better vehicle!

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    Got through rego check but now I have to make a decision

    Yes. this P38 got through the pink slip inspection. That was the good news.

    The trip back was a nightmare - down to 40KPH just to avoid major damage from all the slamming around in the potholes and wash-outs when the rear suspension just bottomed out causing the body to hit the tyres. I have to admit I had over 100 Kg of full fuel containers in the load space but even the trip to town with empty containers was not a lot better.

    Apart from the suspension problems, this vehicle is in very good nick and it was a cheap buy. The dilemma now is whether a) to keep it as is and put up with the poor ride b) spend a couple of grand changing over to coils - at least on the back or c) sell the bloody thing and buy something better suited to the bush.

    Selling may not be a good option, because I'll get very little for it and whatever I buy as a replacement may just be a lot of potential trouble. The coil conversion may be the best course, because if the ride is then as good as I have in my 91 Hiline, I'll be happy although spending that sort of money does not appeal.

    What would you do?

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    I am conflicted about the options I must say.

    First off I find it hard to hear the rear is so "bad" as you said. There must be something wrong since I never experienced that, well, not until I loaded 'er up till around 3.1 tons (where 2.8 is the legal limit) 100 liters of extra fuel hardly would push it over it's GVM In any case.

    Selling it might not be the best option but it might get into the hands of someone who will love and keep it? Not sure. A coil conversion would pretty much rob the car from one of its prime features, though yours is not in great shape as it is.

    I guess the "most expensive" way to go is to try and fix the current system up to spec, that will cost money but at least then you know Since EAS parts do have value you can always sell them on and go for a coil conversion after all. Some people buy a P38 with coils and even want to convert them back you know As I write that, did you try and find a secondhand set? Certainly with the unfortunate amount of scrapped P38's by now, a local (or perhaps on oz scale not so local) wrecker might have what you need.

    I agree that buying something completely different is always a bit of a gamble, better the devil you know?

    Tough decisions!
    Cheers,
    -P

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    Quote Originally Posted by prelude View Post
    I am conflicted about the options I must say.

    First off I find it hard to hear the rear is so "bad" as you said. There must be something wrong since I never experienced that, well, not until I loaded 'er up till around 3.1 tons (where 2.8 is the legal limit) 100 liters of extra fuel hardly would push it over it's GVM In any case.

    Selling it might not be the best option but it might get into the hands of someone who will love and keep it? Not sure. A coil conversion would pretty much rob the car from one of its prime features, though yours is not in great shape as it is.

    I guess the "most expensive" way to go is to try and fix the current system up to spec, that will cost money but at least then you know Since EAS parts do have value you can always sell them on and go for a coil conversion after all. Some people buy a P38 with coils and even want to convert them back you know As I write that, did you try and find a secondhand set? Certainly with the unfortunate amount of scrapped P38's by now, a local (or perhaps on oz scale not so local) wrecker might have what you need.

    I agree that buying something completely different is always a bit of a gamble, better the devil you know?

    Tough decisions!
    Cheers,
    -P
    Yes- you have pretty well defined the values of the alternative options

    I agree that reverting to the standare EAS is probebly not a good choice. It will only be a matter of time before it fails again.

    Every forum I look at contains conflicting opinions about the coil conversion option and there is no clear consensus. The particular issue for me is the terrible dirt roads and even the sealed roads are very bad thanks to the lack of interest of the local council. Also, this vehicle is essentially a backup so it is driven under 200km only once every couple of months to town and back

    I can only compare the EAS with the performance of coil suspension on my classic. The latter is far superior.

    This is a classic case of not knowing what I don't know. Throwing money at is seems not to be the smart solution as there may be little or no improvement

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