Thread: All p38 owners up to mid 1999 please read.

Hello there,

Am interested in living longer than my 1995 P38 so please can either Russell or someone else let me (and everyone else) know the appropriate whereabouts and process for purchasing the kit/instructions.

Just curious, but has anyone from AULRO (in an official capacity) formally made LRA aware of all this? Not to be talking any legal or recall action, just simply hoping they accept some sort of Duty to Care and perhaps take responsibilty for a little public communications on the matter. It seems reasonable that knowledge there is a high probability of a COMPLETE brake failure with out any warning should be cause for some concern for the manufacturer. I reckon there are more P38's on the road than I have so far seen as contributors on this site, and it's more than a little scarey that none of these people would even have a clue as to the risks they are currently taking.

Anyway, just curious like I said... please post purchase details for kit.

And big thanks Russell from me, the Mrs and our 3 little ones for letting us know how to continue being a happy healthy family in a 1995 P38!!!

HooRoo, Dave & "the pretty Pig".

Russell makes them and sells them himself.

I believe the "somebody should tell Land Rover" discussion has been had at length on the RangeRovers.net forum.

Not really sure of the outcome.

I can highly recommend making the effort to do this repair.

There are some symptoms to look out for which will indicate that it will help your car.

Originally Posted by DT-P38

Hello there,

Am interested in living longer than my 1995 P38 so please can either Russell or someone else let me (and everyone else) know the appropriate whereabouts and process for purchasing the kit/instructions.

Just curious, but has anyone from AULRO (in an official capacity) formally made LRA aware of all this? Not to be talking any legal or recall action, just simply hoping they accept some sort of Duty to Care and perhaps take responsibilty for a little public communications on the matter. It seems reasonable that knowledge there is a high probability of a COMPLETE brake failure with out any warning should be cause for some concern for the manufacturer. I reckon there are more P38's on the road than I have so far seen as contributors on this site, and it's more than a little scarey that none of these people would even have a clue as to the risks they are currently taking.

Anyway, just curious like I said... please post purchase details for kit.

And big thanks Russell from me, the Mrs and our 3 little ones for letting us know how to continue being a happy healthy family in a 1995 P38!!!

HooRoo, Dave & "the pretty Pig".

Hi Dave, thanks for the kind words and encouragement from yourself and others. I contacted both LR and the manufacturer of the modulator when this first came to a head. Both companies had no interest obviously concerned with their liability. Hence I developed and tested the kit on a few P38's before making them available to all.
The kits are $99.00 including express mail to you. Payment is via Paypal for credit cards or electronic transfer. Let me know which suits you best and I'll send the appropriate invoice.
Regards Russell.

Originally Posted by HSE30

Sorry, but every one. That is MY99. Russell.

Hi Russel...pm sent
cheers
Allan

I'd only had my 99model P38 about 2 weeks, coming home with the Wife in Peak hour along St kilda road when I lost all braking. Foot went straight to the floor. I was lucky as it was still under warranty, so I limped to the mother-in-laws house just around the corner (using the handbrake). The dealer picked it up and replaced the faulty part. I am assuming my little piece of plastic broke....

It sounds like that is what happened.

The pictures I posted earlier in this thread show the offending disc broken into pieces.

Mine were in tact, but disintegrated whilst trying to remove them, and let me say it did not take much at all. The plastic was very brittle and the pattern of the small holes in a circle creates a weak point.

The main issue I have had with this repair has been bleeding the air out of the system. It stands to reason that such a complex set of chambers and valves could hold a pocket of air for some time. Plus it is a time consuming and finicky job to bleed the brakes as it requires 2 people to complete effectively (and as we know, you can only convince SWMBO to help out so many times - once to be exact)

Therefore, upon suggestion from the Range Rovers forum I have purchased an Eezibleed one man bleeder kit which allows you to bleed the system on your own by pressurising it using air pressure from a tyre valve.

I am hoping that by bleeding it with a bit of pressure, it will also assist in pushing out any remaining air pockets. Plus I can do it in my own time.

I will keep you posted as to how it goes.

Cheers
Dave

Well today was the first chance I've had to try the Eezibleed one man bleeder kit.

Gunson | G4062 | Eezibleed Kit

This device cost about $35 from the UK, and I think its a must for all P38 owners. You could probably make it yourself, but why bother when it would cost about the same.

It is a plastic bottle with a hose going to the brake fluid reservoir and another hose with an air valve that you attach to your tyre (drop the pressure to around 20 psi)

I bled the brakes once with SWMBO operating the pedal, and even though she did a great job, you cannot beat this for ease and convenience, and for doing it at your own pace.

The worst thing about it is having to refill the bottle, quite regularly, as this also requires you to remove the air valve from the tyre.

Once you get going though, its very easy.

If anyone in Brisbane wants to use it, be my guest. Its not the sort of thing you need every day.

Cheers
Dave

HE30:
Ta dude. Sounds like I might have to get this lot sorted, mine is a '96 and that is about the oNE thing it has not thrown @ me yet, but the work it does it will, and that is nae a happy thought.
If I were to get a holt of a 2h unit frun mah wrecker/"auto dismantler"
could I ship it to you for fixing? Had some idiot hacksaw the L rear brake pipe Nov last. Doesn't seem to have caused any dramas, I just did a routine relacement and had someone go prawn fishing for a day or two. [NOT!] [Would've bloody liked to but]

Come back please

M H Ein