My p38s death

**PaulP38a** · 17th June 2009, 11:48 PM

Sorry to see another P38A drowned. I have a pretty good idea how you must be feeling... did it myself last year, although the water was a bit deeper.

I wonder if the plastic shroud in the LH wheel arch was cut to fit your bull-bar? Depending on how big the hole/cut is, it might have been enough to direct the water up to the air intake inside the guard... just a theory.

Had you done any other water crossings that day? The odd splash of water to the air-intake shouldn't be a big deal until the level builds up in the air box enough to create a seal... then it's over. I now appreciate why it is a good idea to check the air box after every crossing.

We really need a supplier of snorkels for these things.

If your BeCM didn't get wet, I reckon you'll have a good chance of getting it repaired.

Also depends on your insurance company too I guess. Mine was insured with NRMA. By the time they inspected it, I had ripped the interior out to dry it out so it looked pretty bad inside, and the BeCM and a couple of other ECU's were fried. They did not hesitate to write it off (statuatory, not repairable).

I wish you well in getting the Rangie back on the road again.

Cheers, Paul.

**peacey** · 18th June 2009, 05:05 PM

Still waiting to hear from insurance.
Have made plenty of crossings that were proberly to deep (over 800mm) with no problem.
None of the plastic shrowd has been tampered with, maybe because the bullbar sits higher than origonal bumper provides less protection (will check next time).
I had been making plans to fit a new patrol (gu) snorkel, does fit and with a little fiddling around i would have been able to fit pipe work inside guard, so still retaining every part in origonal place. when i get it back or replace will be first item fitted (will post instruction & photos). Hopefully have an answer by monday.

**andrew e** · 18th June 2009, 10:44 PM

Hi Peacey, No one has built a commercial snorkel yet, as they are one of the hardest cars to do. If you remove a front guard outer skin, you will know why. There is a thick reinforcing rib the whole length of the guard, and completely fills the gap between the wheel and the top of the mudguard, so there is no chance of routing a snorkel behind the outer skin.

However, there is another way, though, and thats to come out of the air box, around the eas box, chuck a right angle, and go under the cruise control pump, and exit through a triangle shaped hole (enlarged) behind the front wheel. If you look in the engine bay below the cruise control vac pump, you will see where it will come out. I am trying to get someone to build a snorkel this week.

Andy

**LOVEMYRANGIE** · 19th June 2009, 12:59 AM

You could cross a little slower or just tarp the front.......

Or move to a dryer landscape.......

**p38arover** · 19th June 2009, 09:00 AM

Have a look here: RangeRovers.net • View topic - P38A snorkle?

Rovermech in Salt Lake City made one up for a customer:

**andrew e** · 19th June 2009, 10:59 PM

i dont want to cut and respray the bonnet. I am curious on how he routed it under the bonnet aswell, being a LHD. I assume he has no EAS in the way?

Andy

**peacey** · 20th June 2009, 12:50 PM

Their is plenty of room between the skin and top of wheel well, once a get car back or new car i will build it and post. On the drivers side i have run various cables for winch controls(in dash) dual battery and air line. their is proberly enough room to put a fist in it. have a look when you open the door or remove indicator and have alook.

**996TURBO** · 25th June 2009, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by andrew e

i dont want to cut and respray the bonnet. I am curious on how he routed it under the bonnet aswell, being a LHD. I assume he has no EAS in the way?

Andy

Hi Andy, EAS is the way on LHD too.

Doable but time consuming

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**PaulP38a** · 30th June 2009, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by 996TURBO

Hi Andy, EAS is the way on LHD too.

Doable but time consuming

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a bit off-topic... but I do like the steering and sump protection kit at Blindage et Protections Tout Terrain - Articles - RR-EVOLUTION

**996TURBO** · 3rd July 2009, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by PaulP38a

a bit off-topic... but I do like the steering and sump protection kit at Blindage et Protections Tout Terrain - Articles - RR-EVOLUTION

Thanks Paul,

I do not have any RHD version but can work that out if i have 3-4 demands

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