Thread: P38 - NEW ENGINE (& owner) CRACKING UP!

Originally Posted by DT-P38

ONE SUGGESTION RECEIVED TO DATE WAS TO CHECK CRANK ANGLE SENSOR.

I dont think it will run at all with a faulty crank angle sensor.

OOOPS, just noticed I have been referring to MAF as a MAP... Dill, Dill, Dill!!!

Mechanic Mate who did the change over has today informed me that we will need to get diagnostic check for faults first, but he is pretty much set on it being MAF Sensor.

SOOOOOOOOOO.......

any advice on the best "backyard-er" diagnostic tools for sale for a 1995 P38 4.6?

AAAAAAAAAAND,

does anyone wanna sell me a working (and cheap!) MAF???

Have a fellow AULROian around the corner who has Scan Gauge 2, but have read it may only be good for post 99 P38's. I guess we really want a solution to cover all "the pretty pig's" requirements (such as EAS). Also have a guy via e-bay who will sell me a new non genuine (but guaranteed) MAF for around $250, but would obviously prefer OE and as new as possible (dealer says new OE is $800-ish).

Essentially, I am not loaded enough to keep forking out for dealer plug ins (no offence intended if any of you are reading) especially if I can buy something fairly easy to use and have a crack at it. I intend to have a long and passionate affair with the "pretty pig" given investment to date is now sitting around 4 times re-sale!

I also figure part of looking after a fresh motor will be regular plug ins anyway.

Looking forward to any advice.

Dave & "the pretty pig"

Hi Dave

If you are intending to have a long and meaningful relationship with your "pig" and seriously want to do some of your own diagnostics and clear faults, you should consider getting a FaultMate MSV2 or the earlier Rovacom. You can get a MSV2 new from Hard Range (West Oz), RPI Engineering (UK) or Black Box Solutions (the manufacturer in Cyprus). They retail for between $1,000-$1,500.

Have a lurk around eBay and you might find a second hand Rovacom or MSV2 for less.

I'm still trying to figure out all the goodies I can do with mine, which I only got a few weeks ago... for similar reasons to you... I intend to keep my "tractor" for a long while yet. I reset the adaptive fuel mappings last week and it "appears" to be getting fuel economy...

Re your rough running issues... I had a similar sounding problem quite a while ago... was a bad connection on one of the leads... sometimes they look like they are on ok, but they're not. Remove each one and re-seat it again. maybe, just maybe...

I guess you could also try a big bottle of fuel injector cleaner incase some crap did get picked up in Moe... no, I'm not referring to any girls that I went out with when I lived near there in 1980's

Cheers, Paul.

Thanks Paul, will have to invest soon I guess, as have had no change from pulling and checking leads, or running fuel additives/injector cleaners. Am now in process of purchasing new Non Gen MAF for approx $250 (beats OE at $800-ish) hoping this does it.

At this stage (after spending around $4K with them) I just can't stomach going back to dealer to get stung for a $100+ plug in... I can get better rates (and value!) from the local brothel for plugging myself in!

If the MAF don't do it, old mate mechanic (who did the engine swap) will have to be getting it back to sort out. I think he can get onto a machine during lunch or after work or something... fingers crossed on the MAF anyway!!!

Hoo Roo, Dave.

Any ideas why the various state arms of AULRO couldn't invest in diagnostic equipment for members to share?

Perhaps if all registered P38 owners in VIC put in $50 we could get a unit to sit at the president or secretarys place and then just book it out and pick up/drop off to a schedule... or am I just dreaming and the suppliers will not enable it?!?

To all who may have read my negative comments below...I now post a serious SORRY TO LR DEALERS.

I have recently contacted my local dealer and been informed a diagnostic plug in is actually only around $70-80. I now feel guilty bagging them out inaccurately and wish to clarify. I have been told that the cost only goes up when further investigation of highlighted faults (or problems not flushed up as faults) is required and then standard hourly labour charges are then added to this flat charge.

Again, Apologies for my mistake, I must have just been unlucky in my experiences and always had to have additional investigations completed. Will have to start paying more attention to my receipts and feedback from the techo's.

Regards, Dave.

Well lucky that last post was an apology! I just finished putting the new MAF in and guess what? NO CHANGE. Still cracking up over 2500rpm.

AAAHH WELL, "the pretty pig" she is gonna have a nice little change of scenery and go spend some time with "old mate" mechanic again! Hopefully his superior LR training, mystical rangie skills and diagnostic tools can find a nice simple fix... and maybe I can help out another P38 brother with a very, very slightly used non gen MAF (or maybe even a very well run in OE one!). OH YEAH, I can have a crack at e-baying with Andy!

THE SLAB-KARMA CHALLENGE!

As an attempt to bring some joy and humour into this sad situation (and seeing as I'm guessing the wallet is possibly gonna be spread open again), I will put up a slab of beer to the individual who is first to come up with the nearest thing to (what I can only hope will be) a final solution. So gents, the rules are simple:

1. You need to be first in with the right answer, and
2. You only get one stab at it and can not list a selection of cures.

Note: If the fix is multi part the first correct entries for each part will share in the beers! Me and the wallet just hope we don't have to try delivering beer to 24 different winners!

Happy days all! And FYI, I still love the "pretty pig"!!! Its weird, but even the disappointing post MAF test drive was able to put a wry smile on my face! Its obviously an illness this P38 thing...

HOOROO, Dave & the "pretty pig"

How specific do we have to be?

Could I just post "It's a Lucas problem" and win the beer?