Thread: Range Rover P38 review

just started to get this mag in lroc (sydney) library ,july and august has our members landies in it ,be interesting to see september mag with that above info .i had coil conversion done but what they fail to mention is once coils done ,you dont spend again to replace .i can go to a paddock and stake a air bag ( than have to buy replacement bag again)or if have a leak ,and compresor works continuously than gets hot and fails (what hapened to me) and then have to buy new one again or repair it .i see they forgot to mention that , and that coils are static ,you can poke them with a stick and get them hot in the desert but still their working , hmmm cant wait for that sep mag to read.

Originally Posted by rofosixone

i had coil conversion done but what they fail to mention is once coils done ,you dont spend again to replace .i can go to a paddock and stake a air bag ( than have to buy replacement bag again)or if have a leak ,and compresor works continuously than gets hot and fails (what hapened to me) and then have to buy new one again or repair it .i see they forgot to mention that , and that coils are static ,you can poke them with a stick and get them hot in the desert but still their working , hmmm cant wait for that sep mag to read.

Dont forget, coils also break.
1st hand experience of that too, I was travelling through the congo (africa) and my friend was in a 110 defender, he ended up braking 3 coils, both rear and also a front. He carried 4 spares with him luckily.

Ive replaced air bags on my rangie, its a very easy job, and not costly.
Air bags give a superior ride than coils (especially the arnots), have other benefits such as varying height especially when towing, and higher ground clearance when desired. I wouldnt do a coil conversion, why replace with inferior technology?

Oh yes, but with coils you do not have the constant paranoia every time you turn the key!

Its all been said before. Each to thier own. Both sides of the argument preach to the converted. Circle of Life.

I converted.

Originally Posted by Kalincho

Its all been said before. Each to thier own. Both sides of the argument preach to the converted. Circle of Life.

Well said Kalincho. Whatever floats your boat, or rocks your world.

Me, I like the boat (air springs)

Originally Posted by Kalincho

Oh yes, but with coils you do not have the constant paranoia every time you turn the key!

Its all been said before. Each to thier own. Both sides of the argument preach to the converted. Circle of Life.

I converted.

So my rr lasted 140000 kms before problems started with EAS.
Yes, it gave me the ****s, but after replacing the components I now understand how it all works, and I know Imconvinced air is the way to go.

Dont forget, Landrover have innovated the 4x4 market.

• Coils instead of leaf springs
• Disc brakes instead of drums
• Constant 4wd instead of free wheeling hubs
• Comfort instead of discomfort

So, Kalincho, you chose to head in the direction of the toyotas.
Why did you go backward?

Originally Posted by karlz

So my rr lasted 140000 kms before problems started with EAS.
Yes, it gave me the ****s, but after replacing the components I now understand how it all works, and I know Imconvinced air is the way to go.

Dont forget, Landrover have innovated the 4x4 market.

• Coils instead of leaf springs
• Disc brakes instead of drums
• Constant 4wd instead of free wheeling hubs
• Comfort instead of discomfort

So, Kalincho, you chose to head in the direction of the toyotas.
Why did you go backward?

Don't forget to add the "command driving position" to the list of innovations. It sold me more than any other feature when I bought my first RRC.

Karlz, give the guy a break please. We each have our own reasons for the choices we make. While I wouldn't change EAS for coil springs, I respect other's choices to do so. It is their loss. If I wanted a Rangie with coil springs, I'd just buy a Classic or a D2 instead... at least they are easier to get parts for

IMHO, the best feature of a P38A is the EAS... and that they look so damn good! Well, not mine... it's pig ugly compared to Remy's

yes karlz can break but were are they made ,china or australia or britan (mine yet to break). i personaly loved air and it is superior than coils but after 6years of ownership and spending 5,000 dollars in repairs on air ,i now look at it like this .next trip whats going too fail /since coils fitted zeroooooooooooooo. but i only look at it on the money side .also read somewere some one asked land rover dealer why defender not air baged ,his answer was same as mine/unrliable . ps today got stuck in bog hole due to being hung up on chasis because of lack of ground clerence as i said do miss air but love money in my pocket , ps got snached out by disco with 85 profile mud tyres and raised coils to my 65 highway profile tyres and std coils /only point to that we went through the same mud bog ,i didnt make it he did .there are other ways may be should put 70 profile mud tyres back on ,naaaaaaaaaaaaa love my high speed grip and cournering ,as someone above said ( paul p38a,i agree with him /and kalincho too ) each to there own ,lov em but to costly to maintain ,cheers.

Because my wife is Japanese and she said the RR was too English!

I had just done the motor swap and thought it was all working well, The EAS didn't have a problem up until then. Swapped the bags over, thinking all was peachy, the next day the RR lent badly to the right, could lift it up and it would level it self out, turned out to be the EAS line hose into the the top of the bag was leaking, though would hold under pressure.

Weighed up all of the options and opinions and budget (this is after persuading my wife to fix the RR.) and the decision was made to give her the chop.

Just the thought of it going into a hard fault mode, a sensor being out of whack, an air spring leaking, a compressor failing, etc and my wife being in the car when it happens was all too much stress to take!
(She was in the car when we were 400+km from home and the motor overheated with a cracked liner.)

Just for the record, every LR mech in Perth that I have spoken with has recommend the castration.

One even said :

" EAS is only good for city driving, I wouldn't drive to Mandurah with it"

I personally did like having it and I am in agreement with all of the for statements. It was a hard decision to make, but thus far one that with a gentle soft beep when I turn the key, I am prepared to live with.

P.s. I still have four brand new Airbagman bellows sitting in a cupboard!