Thread: air bag housing extension?

Other thing to check is the bump stops. Mine has improved a lot since I shortened the extended bump stops.

Thanks Paul, Will have a look... I was of the understanding these only came into play when shock bottoms out (or susp is on crawl/no bags).
If you are running 33"s then you must already have some decent lift unless you've cut the guards. Even with the 2" llift on mine, I still get rubbing on low and standard EAS heights. Are you running Gen II or Gen III's?

No idea about what bags they are, I had them replaced before I started looking and trying to learn more about P38's. They are probably factory items as the guy who did it worked for Landrover at the time... is there an easy way to tell?

Havent cut guards, and they do rub a little if I'm bouncing it round in normal and highway... I even get a little rub on Off road when pushing it often just going too fast on moderate humps (like those track wash out potection channels they put all through the Alpine National Park!).

There are some random pics of the EAS and lift setup of mine at Bump Stops and EAS but I haven't narrated it yet.

There are a couple of issues that I'm still wanting to address with the extra lift:
1. castor angle of the steering due to twisting of the diff. Fix = spacers or lowering of front raduis arms?
2. vibration in front propshaft. Fix = double cardan joint?

Are these issues a result of spacers? I would love to bang them in if they are relatively easy and dont have major impacts to the performance of the vehicle. Which poses another question, how hard is this stuff to fiddle with? I put a 2" lift on the Mrs' 100 series Landcruiser about a month ago (never done anything like it before) and would be game to tackle the "pretty pig" if it wasn't much harder than that.
Cheers, Paul.[/QUOTE]

Apologies Paul, that made a mess of he quoting... I will have to get lessons on using this technology one day!

Originally Posted by DT-P38

Apologies Paul, that made a mess of he quoting... I will have to get lessons on using this technology one day!

easy enough to do Dave... here's a couple of tips
quotes start with
[ quote=<name>;<Message ID>] (no space between [ and quote)
and end with
[/quote]

To multi-quote from the same message, just copy the [ quote=<name>;<Message ID>] and put it before the first word you want to quote, and put [/quote] after the last word... think of it like quotation marks... which they are in a techo sort of way.

you can quote from multiple messages too. Just open the second message in a new window, reply, copy/paste the text in to your original reply... I'm doing it now

Originally Posted by DT-P38

Thanks Paul, Will have a look... I was of the understanding these only came into play when shock bottoms out (or susp is on crawl/no bags).

Mine was bottoming out on the bumps on highway and normal mode because I had extended bump stops and my ride height was set too low. I cut the bump stops down a bit, recalibrated the height settings and problem fixed. Should not be a problem with normal bump stops unless you have recalibrated your ride heights down.

Originally Posted by DT-P38

No idea about what bags they are, I had them replaced before I started looking and trying to learn more about P38's. They are probably factory items as the guy who did it worked for Landrover at the time... is there an easy way to tell?

there may be a label on them somewhere. If they are Arnott's they will look similar like this (but perhaps cleaner than mine )

Originally Posted by DT-P38

Havent cut guards, and they do rub a little if I'm bouncing it round in normal and highway... I even get a little rub on Off road when pushing it often just going too fast on moderate humps (like those track wash out potection channels they put all through the Alpine National Park!).

Got me beat... that's what I used to get with 31"s on my old P38A and no change to EAS settings... 33"s wouldn't fit until I got the "new" P38A with the spacer lift.

Originally Posted by DT-P38

Are these issues a result of spacers? I would love to bang them in if they are relatively easy and dont have major impacts to the performance of the vehicle. Which poses another question, how hard is this stuff to fiddle with? I put a 2" lift on the Mrs' 100 series Landcruiser about a month ago (never done anything like it before) and would be game to tackle the "pretty pig" if it wasn't much harder than that.

I think I read over at RangeRovers.NET that you can do about a 1" EAS-only lift with no other mods. Just use EASunlock and a tape measure.

To do the 2" lift like mine, you'll need longer shocks and air bags if you have stock units now, plus the spacers themselves. Don't think you need to lengthen brake lines or breathers for a 2" lift.

Cheers, Paul.

Paul,

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[ quote=<name>;<Message ID>]easy enough to do Dave... here's a couple of tips [/quote]

I reckon I must be on the 31" tyres you mention and will double check next time I am downstairs near the off road tyre piles. They look so very close in size to the Mrs Landcruisers' 33" mudzillas. Will let you know...

As far as spacers are concerned, I reckon I'll give that a miss... I am taking it to my new friendly "non-dealer" garage to have the HEVAC fixed next wednesday, might ask them if they can reset the heights with EAS unlock, surely they would be edumacated in this stuff?!?

The bags look like yours, but don't have arnott written on them anywhere I can see, and I am gonna get the new friendly "non-dealer" garage guys to check out the sshocks for me whilst in there... assuming they need replacing, would you suggest "having a go" given I was game enough (and successful) on that LC100?

Whatchaa fink?

Originally Posted by DT-P38

I reckon I must be on the 31" tyres you mention and will double check next time I am downstairs near the off road tyre piles. They look so very close in size to the Mrs Landcruisers' 33" mudzillas. Will let you know...

Size doesn't matter as long as you are happy with the performance... at least that is what I tell my wife
If you want to check, what is the diameter of the tyres? 33"s should be about 1006mm and 31"s about 945mm

I find it amusing that your Mrs drives a 'cruiser... mine drives a Freelander and reckons the Rangie is too big for her and her Boxer (dog)

Originally Posted by DT-P38

As far as spacers are concerned, I reckon I'll give that a miss... I am taking it to my new friendly "non-dealer" garage to have the HEVAC fixed next wednesday, might ask them if they can reset the heights with EAS unlock, surely they would be edumacated in this stuff?!?

Maybe, but don't count on it unless they are fans of P38A's. Easy enough to do yourself with a laptop and the right cable. For the grand price of a couple of bottles of half-decent red I'll supply and make up the cable for you myself , or better still buy one from Storey Wilson at Land Rover Reset Tools - EASunlock

Originally Posted by DT-P38

The bags look like yours, but don't have arnott written on them anywhere I can see, and I am gonna get the new friendly "non-dealer" garage guys to check out the sshocks for me whilst in there... assuming they need replacing, would you suggest "having a go" given I was game enough (and successful) on that LC100?
Whatchaa fink?

You seem like a bloke who enjoys a challenge, so I'd say go for it but keep the original bits in case you change your mind. I've still got the original shocks and bags for mine but haven't had the desire to go back to stock. I'm still enjoying the "journey" of getting mine sorted with the lift and aftermarket bits.
Cheers, Paul.