I've always seen Trek and Giant like Ford vs Holden. It depends on which side of the tracks you're from, which side you dress to, and/or whether you wipe back to front or front to back.
James.
Yes, there can always be cased cited where such and such a bike broke and folks tend to then make a generalisation. Unless such events have a recoded history of happening frequently, it's heresay.
Many cyclists I've come across dislike Treks - I've been told my Madone is "the commodore of the peloton" by a fellow club member riding a Pegoretti...it is personal preference, but I personally know of quite a few Colnago, Pinnarello and other so called "exotic frames" failing in less than 10 years, and what happens then? You buy a new one. Trek on the other hand provide a new frame.
I'd be interested to hear why anyone might dislike a Trek 9.9 SSL if they ride one!
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I've always seen Trek and Giant like Ford vs Holden. It depends on which side of the tracks you're from, which side you dress to, and/or whether you wipe back to front or front to back.
James.
Yeah - that's my point, many cyclists do...but the mystique of Santa Cruz frames may be less solidly felt if your frame breaks and you get no warranty!
Riding is believing, and to ride an OCLV MTB may change your mind. As I said to my Pegoretti riding friend, might be the commodore of the peloton, but when was the last time an Alpha won Bathurst?
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If my Chameleon breaks now, after 6 years of being seriously spanked (I'm talking road-gaps-on-a-hard-tail-spanked), it will be framed and mounted above my bed, and I will buy a brand new one. That thing has put up with way more than it should have.
Without getting into an argument specifically about OCLV, I'm with you all the way on the carbon thing though. I ride a Scott Scale 30 as my XC bike and a Scott CR-1 as my road bike. I would use nothing but carbon for these purposes, but for trail trashing and downhill, I don't believe carbon is an option (unless you're talking Lahar or Santa Cruz V-10 Carbon, but that's just silly dollars).
James.
I went down to the local Cannondale dealer and have come up with two options;
I would prefer SRAM over Shimano though. Going to take both for a ride as wll as a 26 Scalpel to get a feel for them.
- Hardtail - Cannondale Flash Carbon 2 29'er (Carbon frame and lefty, Sram X9 groupset etc.)
- Dually - Cannondale Scalpel Carbon 2 29'er (Same as above but XT groupset)
Right now I am leaning more towards the hardtail 29'er.
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Looking over the bikes the frame and forks will easily take the punishment, especially seeing as at the most I have weighed 80kg when I was racing all the time.
Slightly lighter now but with less muscle and a bit more fat...
The only issue on these style of bikes is the rims, they are built for XC and obviously will not take the same beating.
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