Thread: LA

Originally Posted by EchiDna

Not the case in Chemistry ;-)

chemistry is just a subset of physics

Originally Posted by EchiDna

+/- 2% on specially prepared blind samples long before they move onto live samples.

2% is inaccurate imho

Originally Posted by rick130

Eevo !

i own a mountain bike

So this is interesting. We have a few who feel the evidence is poor and others who regard it as convincing.....it'll be interesting to see how (or if) any of our positions change. Keep the viewpoints coming..

We also have entertained the idea that even if LA is guilty.....he had at least done something positive....but interestingly again, perhaps not so much because of his foundation, but perhaps only because many are now riding.

If he isn't guilty - would this not be the single most remarkable cockup in the history of sport? Imagine fooling USADA and the UCI.....there'll be hell to pay.

Floyd came across as desperate and neurotic, Tyler just plain crazy with his 'twin' argument, but when Big George, Whitey, Dave Z, et al all say that the entire team did it and it was all to help the lead rider it's either the biggest conspiracy/collusion to frame someone ever seen in sport, or LA's as guilty as sin.

Yep - and my money is on the latter....and I just heard on ABC news that a US insurer has demanded repayment of 7 million bucks (?) payed out as bonuses for TDF "victories" - I think that was the figure....anyway, the report went on to say that if LA doesn't volunteer to repay the funds, they'll take him to court. This company clearly regards it's case as robust....so will be interesting to follow this. The first of many such litigations, one suspects.

Originally Posted by Scallops

Yep - and my money is on the latter....and I just heard on ABC news that a US insurer has demanded repayment of 7 million bucks (?) payed out as bonuses for TDF "victories" - I think that was the figure....anyway, the report went on to say that if LA doesn't volunteer to repay the funds, they'll take him to court. This company clearly regards it's case as robust....so will be interesting to follow this. The first of many such litigations, one suspects.

I believe it was the lawyer for the same company who said on 4 corners they have a deposition where Armstrong perjured himself (by saying he had never used PEDs). I suspect the threat of a prosecution for perjury would be significant motivation to repay the $$$.

Originally Posted by Scallops

Yep - and my money is on the latter....and I just heard on ABC news that a US insurer has demanded repayment of 7 million bucks (?) payed out as bonuses for TDF "victories" - I think that was the figure....anyway, the report went on to say that if LA doesn't volunteer to repay the funds, they'll take him to court. This company clearly regards it's case as robust....so will be interesting to follow this. The first of many such litigations, one suspects.

That stems from a case years ago where LA took the insurance company to court as they refused to pay out on his sixth or seventh Le Tour win bonus as they claimed he was probably tainted.

He beat them with the 'never tested positive' argument, so they obviously now want their money back.

Originally Posted by rick130

He beat them with the 'never tested positive' argument, so they obviously now want their money back.

that is still the case.

note the difference, he is guilty without testing positive.