Thread: LA

Originally Posted by isuzurover

I was just saying the other day to a mate that there must be a lot of trek owners out there who feel a bit silly now...

Nah - I've got the non team civilian model.

Originally Posted by EchiDna

It sucks to think that Trek shelved the "Lemond" brand/range of bikes with the intro of the "Madone" range when a certain Texan became top dog... Greg had to take them to court to get the use of his own name back even though they weren't going to use it again.

as for Contador, yep, he only lost the 2010 yellow jersey and kept the earlier ones.

Buggered if I can work out how Pat Mcquaid can justify keeping his position at the moment...

Yep, LeMond has come out of all this totally vindicated.

For those that aren't aware, LeMond has been claiming LA was tainted for a number of years now, so Trek (supposedly with LA egging on) dumped his brand/line of bikes as he was damaging the marketing tie in with LA and the USPS team.

LA went after LeMond and his family, so you had Trek on one side and LA on the other as they tried to wipe him out financially to silence him.

LeMond became increasingly shrill with his LA denunciations, claiming all sorts of skullduggery and bully boy tactics from LA personally and LA and Trek's legal teams, which to most commentators sounded like it was paranoia, or at least verging on it.

Turns out it was all true.




Both Pat McQuaid and Hein Verbruggen look either tainted or incompetent from an outsiders perspective.
Either way, the UCI looks almost as bad as the dopers.

Originally Posted by Scallops

Yeah, but not everyone does Dave, that's the thing. The guys who won't do drugs are either shunned, or quit (Graeme O'Bree a classic example)

Originally Posted by Scallops

Same thing with Defys though- some folks simply can't come around to using the most performance enhanced model of the lot!

If your worried about peer pressure to do the drugs, thats easily fixed by the different competition classes, basic human and open. just like guys who race in naturally aspirated classes are immune to the derision to fit turbochargers and superchargers.

no reason why we should....

Originally Posted by Scallops

Same thing with Defys though- some folks simply can't come around to using the most performance enhanced model of the lot!

If you can get there and dont need the extra help, why pay to have it on board?

But that also fits into the general demise of driver skills anyway... a driver who can reverse parallel park a car without auto park can still parallel park a car thats got it. Can the one who needs the auto park to do a reverse parallel park in a car that doesnt have it?

OR how about the new WV auto brake... The adds grate driver talking to the passanger not paying attention to the road, facing the passanger and nearly goes through the steering wheel cause the brakes have come on automatically. Awesome, accident avoided. 2 questions.

1. What if he'd drifted into the oncoming traffic instead of staying in lane behind the van in front.
2. Does it in any way encourage responsible vehicle operation.


but thats kinda getting off the point of the LA debacle.

Speaking of Lemond....McQuaid et al....
Open Letter to Pat McQuaid from Greg LeMond | Cycling Tips

Originally Posted by EchiDna

Speaking of Lemond....McQuaid et al....
Open Letter to Pat McQuaid from Greg LeMond | Cycling Tips

Cheers.

From the same site, this is worth reading too....
Q&A With Paul Kimmage | Cycling Tips

Originally Posted by Eevo

when you call in sick for work, do you go the dr for a med cert first or after you call in?

When your work, your livelihood and "brand" rely on an particular image in a sport already heavily tainted by drug use, I would go to the doc before I got sick to advise him I was feeling a little off.

The argument is flawed.

Additionally what does cycling as a sport gain by outing, albeit belatedly their greatest ever champion! If they thought there was any shred of doubt about the ASDA evidence they would have torn it apart and reinstated their champ.

They did not!

George

Cutting edge TV show to detail the entire saga......

‘South Park’ takes aim at Lance Armstrong | GulfNews.com

And LA is now even a hit with the Edenbridge Bonfire Society!

Armstrong effigy unveiled for UK bonfire