I've got to ask, to helmet or not?

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24th February 2018, 10:25 PM
trout1105

Please explain how posting on a Public forum that anyone can read and "Skiting" about Not wearing a helmet and pretty much condoning that practice isn't "
moronic', 'arrogant', and egotistical" ?
24th February 2018, 10:35 PM
Gordie

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Originally Posted by trout1105

Please explain how posting on a Public forum that anyone can read and "Skiting" about Not wearing a helmet and pretty much condoning that practice isn't "
moronic', 'arrogant', and egotistical" ?

Your opinion is pro helmets and helmet laws. I respect that. By calling opinions opposing yours 'moronic, arrogant and egotistical' you are saying that anyone not agreeing with your opinion, falls into that category. And that you have no respect for any opinion but your own..... All I ask is that it is debated without the sledging.
24th February 2018, 11:57 PM
Slunnie

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Originally Posted by trout1105

The compulsory helmet laws came in because too many people were getting head injuries, Much the same reason seat belts are compulsory.
I can recall that there was a plethora of Dumb anti seatbelt arguments when they were first made compulsory and yet these would have saved countless lives (Mine included) since that legislation was enacted.
I have No solid proof that bike helmets have done the same as seatbelts have But Seriously where is the harm in wearing one and because there is a chance of getting a fine for Not wearing one it is a good incentive to strap one on [thumbsupbig]
I suppose that ABS and airbags are considered to be pointless "Nanny State" regulations by the helmet naysayers as well [bigwhistle]

I remember the arguements that ABS and SRS have made people brake later and drive closer than ever before. I recall one comentator in a doco saying the best way to stop people driving stupidly is to fit a great big spike on the steering wheel pointing straight at their heart.

My opinion on helmets is that they should be compulsory. Everybody on a bike has a crash at some stage, and to see the helmet shattered from front to back is a sickening eye opener that would have been your skull if it werent for the helmet. I also don't believe we should be aspiring to the lowest safety standard of alternative countries.
25th February 2018, 06:50 AM
CraigE

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Originally Posted by Gordie

Just scroll back through the posts and you will soon see who is being referred to, anyone who stated, like myself the fact...that they have done alright thus far without a helmet!

But as I said, I respect opposing views, and have been persuaded by some of those views that maybe they have merit. As I said, the OP asked for views. He didn't ask for a thread full of people agreeing on needing helmet laws...and those that dissent are labelled as providing moronic views, from their over inflated ego's, in their arrogant little la la land!

And by the way....these days I wear a bike helmet...and I think I look quite good in it...so no ego on my behalf!! [smilebigeye]

It was not a personal attack, but a general statement on the mindset of people that dont think they need a helmet, but I dont back away from the statement either. It is a statement on the attitude of said positions. He asked for views and got mine, not just views that disagree with the laws, mine is from a perspective of attending incidents. Too many people that think it will never happen to me. We all grew up not wearing helmets and survived, but also know people that suffered minor and severe head injuries as a result. Times have changed as has protective gear. As I said I have not had a vehicle accident wear I needed a seat belt either in a road car but I would not get in a car and not put one on either, again I have seen the result too often of people that also think this law is wrong, usually on the bonnet or on the road after being ejected.
It is just plain egotistical and arrogant to think it will never happen to you, there are certain plots of land that are full of people that think they are indestructible.. :soapbox:
25th February 2018, 06:54 AM
weeds

Gotta love bike threads........they always turn into a **** fight.
25th February 2018, 06:59 AM
scarry

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Originally Posted by grey_ghost

I have to admit - I thought that this thread was initially about something else... [bighmmm]

Maybe weeds avatar?[biggrin][bighmmm]
25th February 2018, 07:02 AM
CraigE

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Originally Posted by trog

After innumerable posts questions asked , why have no other countries barring New Zealand adopted helmet laws ?

Actually several countries have bicycle helmet laws of some sort, Australia and New Zealand are just the most comprehensive. Canada, Finland, Iceland, Sweden, Czech Republic and even parts of the US.
New Zealand enforces the laws the most rigorously.
While law in WA very rarely enforced and that is a big part of the problem, making people complacent.
IMHO if laws are changed or not and you dont wear a helmet and receive a head injury attributable to not wearing a helmet there should be no compensation and you should have to foot all medical bills. Your choice, well ok then thats fine, but you need to then accept all consequences and liability. But hey we live in a society that these days does not want to accept responsibility for their actions and choices.
25th February 2018, 07:03 AM
CraigE

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Originally Posted by weeds

Gotta love bike threads........they always turn into a **** fight.

Hey I prefer a **** fight here rather than picking up someone with a smashed melon.[thumbsupbig]
Ask anyone that has seen a Basal skull fracture and watched someone depart this world for the sake of a $40 helmet messing up their hair.[bigsad]
25th February 2018, 07:29 AM
weeds

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Originally Posted by CraigE

Hey I prefer a **** fight here rather than picking up someone with a smashed melon.[thumbsupbig]
Ask anyone that has seen a Basal skull fracture and watched someone depart this world for the sake of a $40 helmet messing up their hair.[bigsad]

I don’t think the **** fights on here change anybody’s mindset.......

The OP asked a question about helmet or not, I knew I should have posted att he start.

Either way its just announced we are out of milk so one of the kids and I are about to ride down to the shop to buy a bottle. I’m betting no helmet for this trip.

This arvo I’ll be mountain biking with a bunch of mates, helmet ? **** yeah 100%
25th February 2018, 07:43 AM
martnH

I .... Had a accident on my bike.
I was doing 65to 70km/h when I hit the fence.... That was because of a stupid kid running into the bike lane

At 65km/h I could have done serious damage.....

Anyway bike totaled and I survived. Helmet was cracked

Just to mention, I was riding a tt bike so my head land first...

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