Plugger and The Camel

**Archangel007** · 20th May 2017, 05:27 PM

Thanks for the info John, for what its worth, I love the 'look' of the Alpine windows and glad we grabbed a set for the Camel!

Thanks Joos, we are certainly having some fun with this and The Camel will definitely be a bit of an individual.

Now on with the show...Its In!!

Today is the day that we ticked off another milestone - the engine and gearbox are back in the truck, but not without some head-scratching and drama (well, a little drama anyway!)..

On Monday I ordered a new clutch plate, and clutch sleeve and pins for the throwout mechanism, a new rubber seal for the handbrake rod and of course new engine mounts and gearbox mounts. This all arrived on my doorstep Thursday and I was relieved that it turned up in time to allow us to put some hours into the car on the Saturday! So thanks SW Macintyre for sending those items off straight away! Funnily enough the engine mounts were M10 and I had to go and grab some nuts to fit - and lucky for me I went and checked them! Likewise I had to grab some new bellhouse to adapter nuts as the originals had all gone walkies so I grabbed 20 of those just in case even though I only need 12 - they are 5/16 UNF.

With the new clutch installed and the pressure plate installed it was time to mate the engine to the gearbox. Once it was all aligned and level it really just slid together nicely with only a little bit of jiggling. I did it up on the welding table and its so much easier at this height. And here they are happy together at long last:
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Then it was on with the new engine and gearbox mounts while it was at this nice work height:
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But I think the extractors are going to be a bit of a problem...
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But they look so good together and like they were meant to be there!!
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Anyway the first test fit confirmed our suspicions - the extractors would foul the crossmember. By just how much remained to be seen. Seeing as they cost me virtually nothing when I bought the 202, I threw caution to the wind and got out the reciprocating saw and made the first tentative cut - just behind the last collector - in hope that this as all that was need to get the engine in:
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But this was to no avail!! The secondary collector from the collected primaries had to go - bugger!! Not exactly sure what I am going to do here. I know I can weld in some 90-degree bends and make it all work but that would be flow restrictive and kind of defeats the purpose of having a nice long-branch set of free-flowing extractors in the first place. Could weld a tunnel into the crossmember though.....
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So, after all that, here it is, back where it belongs, and another milestone ticked off.
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And seeing as we were on a role (sort of) we decided to install the front and rear tailshafts as well. The front went in with no worries but with the suspension fully extended (it compressed like an inch or so with the engine and trans installed!!) it was right at its maximum extended length. I am hoping the suspension will settle now with the additional weight of the powerplant installed but time will tell. It does not however come close to touching the crossmember in this position.
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The rear prop shaft is half in and the new 5/16 nuts came in handy again here! So that was it on day one of the reinstall. A couple of things to think about though - now that the engine and trans are in I thought the front suspension would compress a little more and it didn't! It probably will over time. But for now lengthened brake lines by 75mm will need to be purchased to replace the new ones purchased from the UK. Also, the shocks will need to be extended length ones. Can anyone give me some good advice on this - the brands to buy, the brands not to buy and where to get them from. I think plus 2-inches will be just fine. And while I'm at it I think I will replace the steering damper as well as its weeping (original unit I think!)...

So that's all from us for today. We had a ball today and so glad to be hitting some home runs!

Cheers and thanks,
Tricky and Plugger

**Warby** · 20th May 2017, 05:43 PM

What an amazing journey you two are on.... I learnt to drive on my old mans series 11a/ 111 1971 lwb... such fond memories learning to be a gear jockey on that crash gearbox. Certainly made my mates envious in there 4 cylinder Buzz boxes. I think there is something so character building about owning and driving a Land Rover. It certainly teaches a certain level of respect for your vehicle. When the 11a finally 'retired' I had well and truly caught the British bug.... glad to see the bug is still very much

!
Great work

**Phil B** · 21st May 2017, 07:08 AM

Tricky
Is the front prop shaft in the right way round?
If the slip joint was at the TC end it would give more clearance to the x member and would be less vulnerable to off road damage
Just a thought.

**mick88** · 21st May 2017, 07:36 AM

Andrew, great job you and Plugger are doing on this rebuild.
What clutch plate did you get for it?
Do you know what pressure plate it has fitted, Holden or Land Rover?
Keep up the good work.

Cheers, Mick.

**grey_ghost** · 23rd May 2017, 07:43 AM

Hi Tricky & Plugger,

Sorry for the thread hijack (well it is on topic). I spotted this on the news last night..

"James Matthews and James Middleton arrived in a Land Rover to the wedding" (aka Pippa Middletons wedding over the weekend)

It's got the alpine windows - looks nice... It's hard to tell, I'm not 100% sure if this is a 2A or a 2.. It looks like it had headlights in the guards, which have been plated over?

Here is Roger, my 1960 Series 2. I think that it would look nicer with the alpine windows in it.. I have another roof that came with the car, it is doesn't have alpine windows in it either..

Cheers,
GG.

**travelrover** · 23rd May 2017, 07:46 AM

Can't open photos :-(

**JDNSW** · 23rd May 2017, 02:26 PM

The only way to tell definitively whether it is a 2 or 2a is to look at the chassis number - the only difference between the late Series 2 and the earliest Series 2a was that the diesel engine changed size. And to further complicate matters, all the visible bits are a bolt on swap between the two.

Those mudguards are definitely plated over, but this is most likely because you can't buy Series 2 muguards, and it has been fitted with the easier to find Series 3 ones, but plated over to preserve the narrow headlights. Or it could always be a Series 3 masquerading as a Series 2!

**Archangel007** · 23rd May 2017, 07:12 PM

Thanks Warby, what a nice thing to say. I reckon that if Plugger can learn to drive a Series Landy then he can drive anything and it should put him in good stead for anything more modern! His mum is English, so I will blame her (mind you, I am in the market for a Triumph GT6 if anyone has one for sale)!!

Phil,
This is what it says in the Haynes manual - front drive with splined end closest to the diff. Rear shaft with the splined end closest to the handbrake:
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GG - excellent photos sir, excellent!! Even pseudo-royalty drive Landies - obviously men of exquisite taste!!

Yes,it looks like a 2A/3 with the wide-lights plated over....!!?? Our roof didn't come with them either, but they sure look better with than without! BTW Plugger reckons Roger is cool (so do I)!

Further on from my previous post, can anyone give me some guidance and/or advice on buying some extended shocks?? I don't want to buy rubbish but I don't need to buy De Carbons or Ohlins either. Can anyone give me their opinions on the good, the bad and the ugly???

Cheers and thanks,
Tricky and Plugger

**Archangel007** · 23rd May 2017, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by mick88

Andrew, great job you and Plugger are doing on this rebuild.
What clutch plate did you get for it?
Do you know what pressure plate it has fitted, Holden or Land Rover?
Keep up the good work.

Cheers, Mick.

Sorry Mick, missed this!

I grabbed the new clutch plate from McIntyre's and its a Bearmach unit. The old plate was near new but decided to replace anyway.
Pressure Plate = Land Rover AFAIK

Thanks bud for the nice words and I help the info above helps!!

Cheers,
Andrew

**mick88** · 26th May 2017, 12:22 PM

Thanks Andrew,
so was it a standard Holden red motor flywheel?
If so most likely redrilled to take an 8.5" Land Rover Clutch!

Cheers, Mick.

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