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Thread: LT230, propshaft Removal, Handbrake cable change, Uj Change (pic heavy)

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    LT230, propshaft Removal, Handbrake cable change, Uj Change (pic heavy)

    Ok so its time to drop the shafts for whatever reason. Following the disclaimer we'll get straight into dropping the shaft off, then replacing the handbrake cable before finaly replacing the UJ's in a propshaft. But first, Heres a disclaimer.

    This skips most of the safety stuff, wheel chocks, safety glasses, gloves and how to handle the tools, not reusing nylocs, how to use loctite not getting oil or grease in brake drums all things Im not bothering with on this one IF you dont know what Im talking about missing out on here then either ask someone or just dont to any of this stuff. What we're about to mess with in here has the potential to get you or others dead or worse. no, Im not kidding.


    wasnt that fun kiddies?

    do some prepwork get the following tools

    Jack
    Jack stand
    Something to lay on
    A 14mm ring spanner
    A 14mm Open ended spanner
    A 14mm 3/8th inch or 1/4 inch drive socket
    A 4 inch extention to suit the socket
    A ratchet handle to suit the extention

    If you happen to have a 2 poster hoist to lift the whole vehicle on you probabley dont need to be reading this but just in case you want to feel free to not worry about the first 3 items.

    OK first, Jack up one wheel of the axle thats connected to the propshaft you want to remove, Since I'm aiming at doing the parkbrake later on I need to remove the rear shaft therefore I jack up a rear wheel. If you have some kind of antispin locker thingy in the pumpkiny area of the diff it may pay to jack up both the left and the right, Since Big Red only has TC and that doesnt work when the ignitions off I can get away with one.


    See.

    Cool now slide on under the vehicle and on the back of the handbrake drum using the 14mm ring spanner loosen off the 4 nuts that mount the propshaft flange to the parkbrake.


    turn the propshaft as needed by kicking the wheel around.

    once you have those undone remove the 4 bolts holding the diff side flange ring spanner on the propshaft side and the open ender on the diff side. lock the wheel, Initally turn the ring spanner and not the open ended spanner, you risk rounding the nuts if you dont.


    now drop the Diff side down and by careful manipulation


    you can get the socket on the handbrake nuts quite easily.


    with the 4 nuts removed pull the propshaft (dont drop it on yourself) and you should be looking at


    That.

    putting it back in is simply a case of reversing the above instructions. But usually you dont just take a propshaft out for the hell of it so stay tuned for the next exciting installation where we change that pesky parkbrake cable..
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

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    Changing the parkbrake Components.

    Start out by removing the propshaft. the instructions are up there ^.

    Assuming youve planned ahead you should ,by now be laying under the vehicle and have at hand the following additional tools

    a pair of combination (bullnosed) pliers
    a pair of 45 degree offset needle nose pliers
    a pair of needle nose pliers
    a small flat head screwdriver
    a can of wd40 or similar
    an Impact driver with a large pozidrive head (yes phillips will work you butcher)
    a hammer.
    a 17mm 3/8th inch drive socket
    A 3/8th inch drive ratchet
    money for the swear jar, you are going to need it.

    and be looking at


    The parkbrake drum set the impact driver to undo and unscrew that machine screw if your lucky it just unscrews. Once its out pull the drum, clean and inspect as required, if thats all your changing lucky you. otherwise you should now be looking at this.


    naturally it wont have speech bubbles identifying bits.

    remove all the following
    • the space plate retaining spring (pull the u bend backwards and down with needle nose piers
    • the left side (the speech bubbled one) shoe retainter (reach behind the backing plate and press the back of the pin with your finger, grab the spring plate with a pair of bull nose pliers push it inwards then turn it 90 degrees)
    • The retracting spring (grab the center with a pair of bull nose pliers and pull it towards the right shoe then outwards)


    and you should wind up with something like this



    now reach in behind the right shoe with the 45 degree needle nose pliers and pull the locating pin towards the shoe with the pliers then repeat the bull nose pliers trick on the second shoe locating pin. (when you're reassembling this bit will lead to swearwords)

    now that you have both shoes free rotate them around so you can see the cable retaining end grab the spring with the 45 degree pliers then pull it away from the actuating arm and twist it out of the retainer.



    now with both pair of needle nose pliers rotate the cable retainer untill you can see the split in it, pry at and tear it off then pull the cable out of the backing plate.

    Now head up into the cab and remove the plug that retains the handbrake cover unbend the split pin remove it and then pull the clevis pin out



    ratchet the hand brake to full up then identify the cable gromit, with the screwdriver pry the gromit away from the edge of the seat box and give it some wd40. do that to the top and bottom of the grommit and then reach under the car and yank the cable out.



    Replacing the cable is some what more swear word inducing. First install the cable into the backing plate


    Wedge the actuator arm away from the right hand shoe then pull the spring partway back on the cable, stick the cap of the terminatorinto the slot and hold it with your thumb, you should then be able to pull the spring all the way back, bend the cable under the hook of the retainer, let the spring go so it seats on the retainer and then reposition the terminator so its in the correct position. Sounds fun, wait till you try it. But its still not the worst bit.


    now replace the shoes onto the backing plate and then attach the spacer plate retaining spring, the left hand shoe locating pin and spring


    If they have fallen out put the expander wedges back in the shoe adjuster at the bottom of the backing plate


    and replace the retracting spring


    At this point you can install the shoe retainer on the right hand shoe. (have the money handy)

    When youve got that done put the drum back on and wind the screw back in, tighten it up Dont loctite it. Stick the nose of the cable through the hole in the seat box.

    with one pair of pliers pull the nose of the terminator out and sneak under it with the needle nose pliers pull the cable though as much as you can.

    release the handbrake lever to the lowest position you can get it to, align the terminator with the holes in the handle


    and insert the clevis pin and then split pin it.


    Duck under the vehicle and adjust up the shoe position adjuster untill the shoes juuust touch the drum.


    If needed you can now also adjust the handbrake adjuster under the seat box 17+15mm open end spanners but I have never had to adjust the cable on replacement.

    If thats all your doing, reattach the prop shaft and take the vehicle for a test drive.

    Next Re UJ'ing A propshaft.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
    If you think you're in front on the deal, pay it forwards.

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    Swapping UJ's

    I'll only cover one side in this bit as once youve done one UJ on the shaft the others the same so without further ado with your freshly removed propshaft in hand take it and put it on the table with the following

    a vice
    vice grips
    6/7/8 mm sockets + drivers
    internal circlip pliers
    slip joint pliers
    an impact socket set
    a hammer
    screw driver
    scribe
    center punch.
    grease
    a paint pen.

    Some of these wont be required but are helpful in cleaning things up and bodging things that dont want to play.

    If you havent already go clean the shaft. and leave it in the sun while you do the handbrake work or have a coffee/beer whatevers applicable.

    then

    Remove the grease nipples (all 3)


    then match mark the slip joint


    while thats drying clean off and inspect all the weights and the welds on the shaft, this is what a correctly attached weight looks like


    pull the rubber joiner off of the slip joint and then unscrew the retainer and slide the shaft apart.
    now pull the circlips out of the yokes.

    If the circlip pliers slip out while the circlip is half way out and its too misaligned to get them back in try this
    [ame=http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee78/blknight_aus/?action=view&current=003CirclipSlip.flv][/ame]

    IF you get one that you cant shift with the circlip pliers OR you break the pliers use a center punch to drift the eyes in towards the center dont be gentle it doesnt matter if you damage the bearing you're replacing it anyway.


    if you get it right the circlip should be bent in from the edge enough to get a screw driver in.


    if youve got that happening do this with a screwdriver
    [ame=http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee78/blknight_aus/?action=view&current=006clipbend.flv][/ame]

    once thats bent up enough grab it with the circlip pliers
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    Heres the 4 clips the 2 on the left are useable, the one at the top right is ok but its got a minor twist in it (removed with screwdriver) the one on the bottom right is fubar (removed with center punch, screwdriver and vice grips).

    open up the vice so that the shoulders of the flange yoke sit over the jaws of the vice


    then smack the shaft yoke (not too close to the bearing aparture) so the bearing cup stands proud, smack the yoke down as far as you can


    when the bearing cap is up far enough grab it with the vice grips and rip it out when its clear turn the shaft 180 and start work on the other bearing cup


    then manouver the cross piece clear of the yoke


    hammer the flange yoke off in the same manner


    done right you should now have this on the table.


    now clean the bearing apartures especially the grooves for the circlips


    shiney, grab your new uj kit rip it apart and check the parts against the old ones for sizing, carefully pry the cups off of the cross piece and place them aside somewhere clean. Align the cross piece and the yokes then detetris the new crosspiece into the flange side yoke.


    push the cross piece all the way to one side of the flange yoke hand press a bearing cup into the other and then slide the cross piece into the cup. Place an impact socket (or other suitable driving piece) in line with the cup and mount it all up in a press or the vice.


    wind it in untill the edge of the cross piece is level with the other edge of the yoke


    then place the bearing cup in place, slide the cross piece towards the cup so its partially engaged, swap the driver onto the new cup and press it back most of the way


    pull the lot make sure that both cups are correctly seated on the cross piece and then insert a new circlip.


    Circlips have an orientation if you look very closely you will see that one side of the circlip will be dished and have sharp edges and the other will be domed and have a curved edge. The curved edge goes towards the bearing cup. when you have the circlip in place press the cups back till they are flush and you can get the second circlip in


    Now that you have one side of the UJ assmbled the next side is the same Take care to orient the holes for the grease nipples


    And then repeat the same procedure as above to complete the shaft side yoke.

    once you have it all assembled and clipped rest it on the vice as though you were going to take it apart and with the circlips in place smack each side once this pushes the bearings back up hard against the circlips and frees up the yoke.

    Do the other UJ on the shaft, then using your matching marks assemble the shaft (you inspected the slip joint splines right) and screw the retainer back onto the slip joint then install the grease nipples and give them a shot each.


    jobs done go put the shaft back in then clean up.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
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    hey

    i have to drop the rear shaft as my handbrake has locked on. so far i have undone the shaft at the diff end. when i came to undo the other end i found the nuts a bit round however got them loosened off. now the problem is 3 of the nuts are spining in place meaning i cant undo the nuts.

    how can i get round this hacksaw or grinder maybe. what are your thoughts.

    dan

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    In that situation I use a die grinder.

    you could hacksaw or grinder them off from the backside of the drive flange but you'll be working upside down and probabley cack handed. Be careful not to hit the flange itself or that means diff work to get the flange changed.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
    If you think you're in front on the deal, pay it forwards.

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    Great write up, yet another thing to add to my list.....

    However some of the photos were a little blurry, do you mind doing it all again and getting the focus right??? haha

    Cheers

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    mechanic, not photographer...

    those who complain are destined to take the role of the part they complain about....
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
    If you think you're in front on the deal, pay it forwards.

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    Sorry, maybe I didn't add enough praise or smilies to justify poking you a bit...... It was only meant as a little fun.

    I do appreciate how much time and effort it takes to do these tutes and writeups, I know its not just a 10minute job! Everyone who does so contributes lots to the forum and helps many people out. Cheers.

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