Thread: 3801 back in steam

Earlier stuff,, but it does show a lot of wheelspin,, and some nice vid of a running Black 3801

Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

so, 318 tons.. on a wet track.. uphill..

is there some sort of formula for this?

From a standing start as well. The girl did well.

Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

so, 318 tons.. on a wet track.. uphill..

And I assume no sand is used these days to help with grip

Cowan rail accident - Wikipedia

The force of the crash completely destroyed the last carriage of the steam train, and was enough to break the locomotive coupling and push the engine 12 metres forward.

As I recall the last carriage was a timber built one & why it disintegrated & I understand the use of Wooden coaches was banned, either for Tourist trains or for all NSWR rolling stock. Not sure on that one but I wonder why the Coroner/Wiki missed that important point?

Originally Posted by 4bee

I understand the use of Wooden coaches was banned, either for Tourist trains or for all NSWR rolling stock. Not sure on that one but I wonder why the Coroner/Wiki missed that important point?

Not sure that is correct - in the video of the recent tests the carriages are timber.

Garry

Maybe they used some obsolete stock for tests just in case the brown stuff hit the whirly thing, but I recall there was a big discussion post accident, & that sure was one of the points well made.
I'll keep looking as I am sure there is something to be found. For some reason I thought it was the NSW Governor that was involved, but it was a while ago.

It wasn't the NSW Governor that I mentioned above but a recently retired University bod or two & the family & child of one of them that died


I don't think I read it about Steel Coaches, but was the spoken word at the time. Maybe Steel coaches were in the pipeline with timber constructed coaches to be given the big heave ho.

Made sense to me when I heard it & was surprised that was still the case in the test runs. Reading that report makes one wonder why there were not many more accidents with the attitudes & incompetence prevailing at that time within NSW Rail & supposedly responsible people not doing their paid jobs.

One incident was NSW Rail Sigs were aware that there was a Suicidal person Trackside with intentions & yet still gave the crew the Green Light to proceed.

Don't ask.