Yep, putting a lable on them telling people that they are dangerous will stop any deaths from miss use.
Now if we can only teach people to read labels.
This has just come out on email from 4WDNSW&ACT except the links didn't work
Snatch straps
Draft regulation impact statement
Word doc
Martyn
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Yep, putting a lable on them telling people that they are dangerous will stop any deaths from miss use.
Now if we can only teach people to read labels.
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						SubscriberOut of all of that, they believe a label will stop the misuse of snatch straps ! What is incredible, is that if the straps failed rather than ripping the poorly chosen tow points off the vehicle, no one would get hurt.
We could waffle on about checking vehicles for correctly rated recovery points, but if they cannot detect bald tyres, what hope have we got of detecting and correcting tow points ?!
The label may achieve something though. It will probably limit the manufacturers liability should some idiot use the strap inappropriately.
Last edited by ADMIRAL; 18th May 2010 at 12:12 AM. Reason: grammar correction
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A label won't stop the idiots being idiots, but it will have benefit for those who don't know any better.
My mum drives a 4WD and there is nothing stopping her from buying a snatch strap. I doubt she knows how to safely use one though! She would probably tie it to the bullbar with a nice bow!
A warning label might prevent that from happening, or at least scare her enough to call me and ask how to do it properly.
It can't hurt, and as others have said it puts the onus squarely on the user.
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How do you say it;
Covering ones arse
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						SubscriberHi Guys,
A draft of the proposed regulation can be found at Draft Regulation Impact Statement - motor vehicle recovery straps http:http://www.productsafety.gov.au/cont.../itemId/980854. Just go to the product safety site if you have trouble with the address.
Once you sort through all the arse covering, the actual regulatory bit is right at the end.
It may improve the labelling of snatch straps, but is unlikely to stop inappropriate use by attachment to towballs and tie down hooks. As has already been discussed, the type of individual likely to take unacceptable risks, is not likely to be influenced by any of this.
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Well, as they say, "if at first it doesn't work, read the instructions". I guess its a bit late after the towball you have tied off too has snapped off and gone through somebody's windscreen!!!
Hi All!
Labels on straps are not enough for a safe recovery, adding warning/load tag on recovery points wouldnt do bad either.
Straps labels can be confusing too, unless a standard to be used by all is agreed; some manufacturer uses MBS and others WLL for a strap that basically should be used on same class of vehicle but one has safe working limits built in while the other doesn't: which one is the right one and at which rating?
Ciao!
Mauro
as mentioned above its not so much the strap that is dangerous. its poorly made recovery points and tie down points that are used as recovery points.
Unfortunately there is nothing about a recovery point that can affect a vehicles roadworthyness so failing a vehicle because its recovery point isnt up to scratch isnt practical, especially since most vehicle recovery points wont get used as alot of 4wd's never go off road.
Education is the key, but you cant make everyone who buys a 4wd do a 4wd course and its impossible for everyone who sells snatch straps to go out and make sure the persons vehicle is adequately set up to use them.
matt
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