Winch/Locker - Order of Upgrade

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Originally Posted by Tank

.... it is possible to winch in any direction with a fixed winch a snatch block and a few straps and some imagination and ingenuity, Regards Frank.

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But not when you have flat batteries or a dead engine!

Ever tried to right a roll over with a power winch on the incident vehicle?

With a Tirfor you can safely anchor and control a recovery when they are lost over an edge.

I have both a Tirfor and electric winch, and there are times when the pull on the electric winch is too quick. More than that the action of a Tirfor is very easy, granted not as easy as a power winch, however I have had numerous manual winches, including a Dawn drum winch and the Tirfor is very easy in comparison to others.

Who handles Tirfor winches in Australia? Does anyone know?

I've had a S2, RRC and D2 and yet to break an axle. I do agree that it will provide more peace of mind but also allows less thinking about how to best drive to preserve both the vehicle or environment.

Also took a std Jackaroo (I'm sorry) across the Simpson and ran a std Hilux (sorry again) in an Aust Safari without breaking anything.

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Ever tried to right a roll over with a power winch on the incident vehicle?

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You've got bigger issues.

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Ever tried to right a roll over with a power winch on the incident vehicle?

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Yea, pretty easy with a snatch block and a few straps and bow shackles.......easier than a Tirfor

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Originally Posted by clubagreenie

I've had a S2, RRC and D2 and yet to break an axle. I do agree that it will provide more peace of mind but also allows less thinking about how to best drive to preserve both the vehicle or environment.

Also took a std Jackaroo (I'm sorry) across the Simpson and ran a std Hilux (sorry again) in an Aust Safari without breaking anything.



You've got bigger issues.

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The Simpson is a girls trip relative to terrain difficulty, the concern there is remoteness and reliability:)

Except that I've done it 17 times (rig rd and QA line) and never had an issue. Always in Rovers (bar one) and only erver had issues on P'trolls and Toyo's. And I started doing it back in the 70's when there was no heavy duty option. We carried a full set of axles, two diffs, complete g'box internals, 68gal fuel (all on board,no jerries) and 18 gal water. oxy set (did get used) and no trailer.

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

But not when you have flat batteries or a dead engine!

Ever tried to right a roll over with a power winch on the incident vehicle?

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Yep! As mentioned above, straps, shackles and snatch block..
Was easy as and nobody ended up exhausted :cool:

And dead engine isnt an issue for at least 1 full length pull...

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Originally Posted by clubagreenie

I've had a S2, RRC and D2 and yet to break an axle. I do agree that it will provide more peace of mind but also allows less thinking about how to best drive to preserve both the vehicle or environment.

Also took a std Jackaroo (I'm sorry) across the Simpson and ran a std Hilux (sorry again) in an Aust Safari without breaking anything.



You've got bigger issues.

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Which year event?

JC

I can only speak from the point of view of a mud hound but I would buy a winch. snatch block, tree protector and shovel first. Unless you are running big tyres (greater than 35s) or never see a boggy rutty hole. Diff locks don't work when you're hung up on your diffs or on a boggy cambered to the **** house hill climb. Diff locks have gotten me through alot of very hard stuff but the winch has gotten me out when the diff locks can't. Using a snatch block, shovel and winch I have managed to turn myself a full 180 degrees nearly on the spot diff locks will never do this, when i was running 33's and had both front and rear lockers I would still get hung up either on the diffs or in the middle of the vehicle. Winch and snatch block always saved me. I did a hill climb with a horrible camber on a sharp right hand turn that had my diff locks crab walking me into the bush. The winch saved my arse.

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Originally Posted by OldGreyGuy

Who handles Tirfor winches in Australia? Does anyone know?

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Sling Rig/Bullivants do a number of cheaper knock offs as well as the genuine Trifor, basically any industrial place that does lifting equipment. If the winch is rated for say a 1 tonne lift then its good for 2tonne pull. Toying with the idea of a Trifor not real keen on hanging an electric winch off 23 year old plus electrics.

Anyone got a PTO hydraulic pump/winch setup? Just curious if you need a tank or simply the pumps displacement and the fluid in the lines is enough to get the job done?

Although winches are only any good if you have something to attach them too, for what I intend to do a decent set of sand ladders and a shovel will probably see me through what I want.