winches - plasma rope or wire cable?

**clubagreenie** · 2nd February 2012, 07:22 AM

I've used wire for 25+years, including for slings and winches. I'll never look back. I've dealt with a local wire rope manufacturer and wanted a new hook spliced onto my syn and while they hadn't dealt with splicing it previously theywere willing to do it once they had all trained to do it. Their issue was that they didn't have a sample or stock to use so I just gave them mine and the rep from the company came out and we all (they let me sit in) got to lean the ropes (sorry).

I clean mine after each trip in the washing machine even including some soap (just use sunlight flakes or flake sunlight bar into it) or in the current rain I keep an eye on it and when it dries out I'll service the winch and again wash the rope while it's off.

**Yorkshire_Jon** · 2nd February 2012, 08:07 AM

Just curious about the washing machine...

What do you do with the hook? Doesn't it knock the bejesus out of the drum? I reckon the mrs would do similar to me if there were big dents in the drum and mud on the next wash

That's why mine goes in a big bucket every now and again!

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**clubagreenie** · 2nd February 2012, 08:38 AM

I get a jumbo car sponge and cut a pocket in it and cable tie it on.

**Tusker** · 2nd February 2012, 08:50 AM

Yep I do something similar.

Try it, you'll be amazed what the machine pumps out compared to a bucket wash.

Regards
Max P

**rovercare** · 2nd February 2012, 08:51 AM

The wire rope fans just persist as synthetic rope won't work on their tirfor, electric winches are for sissy's

But for those that have used synthetic rope, they don't go back

Although if you are likely to use your winch once every year or few, wire is better suited but if you winch a few times a year or more, synthetic all the way

**Bardizzo** · 4th February 2012, 03:57 PM

This might be of interest

www.discovery2.co.uk* - Winch Rope Heat sleeve

Cheers

Dave

**Blknight.aus** · 4th February 2012, 04:20 PM

Im actually happy with either. and I'll generally pick the one most applicable for the application. Single line pulls, IF Im wading through swamps or need the reach I'll generally use the synthetic . If Im reeving or pulling on rough stuff I'll take SWR over synthetic,

**Yorkshire_Jon** · 6th February 2012, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

Im actually happy with either. and I'll generally pick the one most applicable for the application. Single line pulls, IF Im wading through swamps or need the reach I'll generally use the synthetic . If Im reeving or pulling on rough stuff I'll take SWR over synthetic,

Get on the fence why don't you

I sort of agree with you in an ideal world, but we don't lie there!

Not many people carry both, or could be arsed to change rope-wire or vice versa every time they get stuck!

J

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**JohnF** · 6th February 2012, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Bardizzo

This might be of interest

www.discovery2.co.uk* - Winch Rope Heat sleeve

Cheers

Dave

I wish I had a winch but dont-- cant afford one as I am a pensioner, so am not an expert.

I was wondering about a large diameter plastic pipe as in a gutter down pipe, split and put around the drum as a heat barrier before I read this far.

As far as the problem of abrasion on Rocks. I did absailing, canyoning & caving when I was younger. We had rope protectors, a leangth of canvas with velcro strips down the side to hold it around rope, and a cord to tie it to the rope so it would not slide of the position we wanted it. which could wrap around the expensive climbing rope where it ran over the rocks to stop abrasion.

I cannot gaurantee this would work with winching ropes but may be worth a try.

I would be suprised if you cannot find these on line in shops supplying climbing ropes. look for rope protectors, at least that is what these were called years ago.

Would love to hear if this was successful.

**clubagreenie** · 6th February 2012, 03:55 PM

The drum is part of the ropes ability to grip and nor slip and release. The end stopper/clip thingy doesn't play much part in keeping the rope on the drum. Where as a wire rope may pass through a hole in the drum and then have a grip on it to stop it pulling through and only need 3-4 turns to stay on and may be laid neatly on the drum. Synthetic ropes need 6-8 turns and are better suited to being laid across in wider passes making it appear messier but will grip better and more importantly compress less so you get less movement of the rope.

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