spooling plasma rope onto drum

**weeds** · 16th May 2014, 12:57 PM

I should have my PTO bolted back on this weekend and I have a length of plasma to replace the steel cable

I read that I should criss cross the rope on....so that it looks like a weaved basket........instead of nice and neat like you do with wire rope

no interested to the pro and cons of which rope I should be using.....the decision has been made

**clubagreenie** · 16th May 2014, 01:21 PM

Two layers neatly then criss cross at 45deg 2 layers, repeat.

Look for Sampson Ropes on You tube they have great videos on spooling and handling plasma and instructionals on how to splice (useful in the field if it does break).

Splice Instructions

Here's the spooling doc

Winding Rope on a Winch

**Tusker** · 16th May 2014, 01:39 PM

Not necessary, if you spool in under tension. Just hook up to a tree, keep the cable under tension & wind in. Easy. My driveway is downhill to said tree, I just apply very light brake pedal to keep the cable taut.

If you don't, that is, just feed in by hand, the rope will pull down into the lower layers next time it's under heavy load. And jam. Impossible to free without cutting.

Regards
Max P

**clubagreenie** · 16th May 2014, 03:52 PM

So the manufacturers recommendation goes out the window? Mine has jammed that tight I had hook it up and winch against it to pull it out of the bind. It compresses enough to pull a top layer down to the 2nd or even 1st wrap. Just cross it FFS. It's not that challenging, or if it is I'd be questioning your ability with a winch.

**weeds** · 16th May 2014, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by clubagreenie

So the manufacturers recommendation goes out the window? Mine has jammed that tight I had hook it up and winch against it to pull it out of the bind. It compresses enough to pull a top layer down to the 2nd or even 1st wrap. Just cross it FFS. It's not that challenging, or if it is I'd be questioning your ability with a winch.

I reckon tusker is experienced with winches.........I think I will criss cross

Chatted to a guy at work this arvo........he had all sort of trouble with his rope when winching for three hours over the holidays......at some stage it will bind he reckons

**Tank** · 16th May 2014, 04:48 PM

What I'm wondering is how are you going to cross layer it (I agree that's the correct way) with a full load on the rope, esp. as the hook gets closer, not easy to do on a slippery steep slope, Regards Frank.

**weeds** · 16th May 2014, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Tank

What I'm wondering is how are you going to cross layer it (I agree that's the correct way) with a full load on the rope, esp. as the hook gets closer, not easy to do on a slippery steep slope, Regards Frank.

I'm figuring if it's a long straight pull there is a chance of binding the longer the pull is.....I assume to criss cross will stop the rope pulling all the way to the drum

**clubagreenie** · 16th May 2014, 08:23 PM

I always wash and respool the rope after trips. And spool under load as stated, it's never often out all the way.

On long pulls I always try to keep it as level wound as possible.

Based on my winch, which has a larger drum for 60m of If you bunch it from the first wrap you won't usually (and this is only from my experience of trying a few methods of wrapping when I purchased new rop off the spool) get as much rope on the drum compared to 2 layers and cross etc. Even if you layer it perfectly you can pull the 2nd & 3rd wrap into the first wrap as there's enough compression in the rope. As it wears in with use it naturally pulls tighter and happens less. But it's never eliminated.

Additionally for reference found this to be useful.

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