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IF they havent changed the design (and Im thinking about the right bar) from the last one I did install work on, theres a voidspace in front of the crushcan area, just in board of the plate that angles back. it puts the loadpoints perfectly in line with the chassis rail.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
you have to demound the bar to get into it and I reccomend that you cut up at least a 6mm thick plate with nicely curved and chamfered edges to act as a backing and support plate for the mount.
The original RRC ARB bar had eyebolts fitted inline with the chassis. They were 4mm with a 3mm additional plate behind welded in. They were (IMO) vastly underrated only being capable of fitting a 3T shackle and rated to 1.25T ea.
As a comparison though a 2T eyebolt loaded to 20T only stretches 7mm (plastic deformation).
At the risk of speaking up and showing my ignorance, shock load is the danger, so easy easy when taking up the load.
Pardon me for being pedantic, but how can something mandatory be recommended? Shouldn't it read "required "Quote:
Originally Posted by rathgar
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The issue is the (mis)use of snatch straps. I am not at all a proponent of them, never use them and will never be recovered by one. I'll winch and catch up thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyG
i agree snatch snaps can be misused but there are times when winching simply wont do.Quote:
Originally Posted by clubagreenie
Yet to find it. But soon to have one at each end it'll be even less of an issue.
yep, most typically if your a bogan rev head toyota driver who simply cant fathom that oversized lifted unstable and non roadworthy wheel spining flying debry and valve bouncing/governror riding are not mandatory for recovery work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
I think snatch straps are fantastic things, but I know how to use them and accept the risk...
I've had a 40t strap let go and nothing happened because it was set up correctly and had a dampener on it, plus no one was standing within 1.5x the radius of the strap... it practically dropped to the ground. I've had more dramatic failures with drag chains behind tractors.
I've even used one on an industrial site to recover a 5t forklift with my Discovery, WH&S bloke didn't bat an eye lid... strap was rated to 11000kg and as far as he was concerned it was fine (I know that will have a few people squirming in their seats).
Personally you couldn't pay me to recover a car off a bull bar mounted with crush cans, the crush cans would deform before the snatch strap fails (plenty of evidence of this applying to D2's from the USA), 15t loading would be a static loading, not an impulse. However most people don't get stuck to the point of using maximum force in a recovery very often... so it's probably ok in 90% of cases.
Swivels are all well and good, but providing the shackle pin does not bind (creating a bending moment), I see no issue with conventional type solid mounted recovery points. The binding issue can be overcome by using a sufficiently large diameter hole.
I've had a look at what Beaver provides in our catalogues at work (Total Tools), and can get a price in the next fortnight if anyone is interested (I'm off, sowing at the moment).
Good to have a price comparison. Waiting on bulk purchase qty and pricing.
My primary reason for changing is the existing eye bolts are only 2T each. And while they reach nowhere near plastic limits with loads that could be applied there's not quite enough margin in them and the thread is way too large on an appropriate size by comparison to the rotating points (which almost doesn't make sense except that maybe the HT status of a fastener cannot be or is detrimental if applied to the entire eyebolt).