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    1954 to 1958 door tops

    Spent the day yesterday with a New Zeland Enthusiast "Leon". While inspecting one example of an ex-SMHEC 88" he commented on it's having the correct door-tops with the little triangular drain holes.

    Having just returned from Paxina he was wondering why all the 88" he viewed had 1954/55 door tops.

    So here's the question how many people with 88" or 109" have the correct door tops on their vehicles?

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    Ok - I didn't appreciate there was a difference except for maybe a change from perspex to glass for the windows and am not sure of this.

    So what are the differences - any pics?

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    On the gal frame just below the window opening at each end there are little triangular holes to drain the water. These are not present on the 86/107 door-tops.

    Not a good image but you can see the rear drain in this crop from a larger image.


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    I will have to check the 3 sets I have when I go home tomorrow.
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    Thanks Diana - just checked the doors on my two 88s - all triangles as is my spare set of doors.

    They are glazed with a mix of perspex and glass.

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    My '56 has, as far as I can tell, the original door top on passenger side,
    and a "located" door top on drivers side. Both have > shaped drains..

    s1 drain hole drivers door.jpg

    drivers door (white panel)

    s1 drain hole door.jpg

    passenger door (green paint)

    s1 drain hole channel door.jpg

    drivers door, inside window channel, rear edge of door, (drain situated towards the inner of door channel)

    so does anyone have anything else??

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    Another difference is on the inside.The vertical bit of the galvanised part that holds the bottom window channel is about 1 1/2" wide on a 88/109 door top, on a 86/107 it's only about 5/16" .

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Thanks Diana - just checked the doors on my two 88s - all triangles as is my spare set of doors.

    They are glazed with a mix of perspex and glass.

    Garry
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    I think you are correct. The 88/109 doortops were glazed for the fixed pane where the 86/107 had perspex for the fixed and sliding panels. Would bot be sure about the 107 wagons although I suspect that the model year would be the ruling factor rather than the wheelbase.
    Quote Originally Posted by B.S.F.Nut View Post
    Another difference is on the inside.The vertical bit of the galvanised part that holds the bottom window channel is about 1 1/2" wide on a 88/109 door top, on a 86/107 it's only about 5/16" .
    The wider chanel at the back was to act as a gutter, the water overflowed the Bailey chanel, run into the gutter and out of the door at each end.

    Great idea.

    What ever possessed them a couple of years later to then design a system where the water seeped through the Bailey channel into the unpainted inside of the Series II/IIa doortops!

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    Checked mine out, the 107 has perspex for both panes and has holes. 86 has fixed panes with glass and holes.

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    I have two 1955 86s, and pair of doors from a third, all with fixed glass and sliding perspex windows.

    Another thing - stripping Arfa down for rebuild I had a real struggle to get the doors off. Then read something in my owner or workshop manual that suggested doors only supposed to lift off when top section is removed.

    Is this right?

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