The Water pump debacle thread

[Scallops]

Thanks Scallops - I will check those markings against mine

I am familiar with the NZ supplier but couldn't see the pump o/haul kit listed on their website - is there a secret password?

Cheers

D

That's what I found too - It's not on the website - The secret password is an email - the chap there replied and offered me the parts I have mentioned and bought - it's the entire kit minus the seal and gaskets. But they are genuine ONS. I don't know if he has a draw full of these bits and pieces or if I just got lucky - but an email will reveal all.

[Scallops]

Found a seal.....

John Craddock LTD - SEAL FOR WATER PUMP SERIES 1 - 239855

Craddocks have the gaskets too - not that we can't all make our own.

[Aaron IIA]

The bearing in the series 1 water pump is a generic bearing used in many many other vehicles . It has the impeller end turned down a bit , thats all .

You can buy a 5/8" shaft bearing from a bearing retailer , and turn down one end .

What are the other dimensions of the bearing? The diameter of the reduced shaft? I have used bearings with two different diameter shafts before.

For seals, try EagleBurgmann - Mechanical Seals, Pump Seals, Sealing Systems, Agitator Seals

Aaron.

[series1buff]

What are the other dimensions of the bearing? The diameter of the reduced shaft? I have used bearings with two different diameter shafts before.

For seals, try EagleBurgmann - Mechanical Seals, Pump Seals, Sealing Systems, Agitator Seals

Aaron.

Aaron
The front end shaft is 5/8" the back end shaft is 1/2" from memory . The outside of the bearing cage is 1 and 3/16" from memory , a common size .

If you use a chevy impeller like I did , no need to turn down the rear shaft as the chevy impeller is 5/8" bore... so just use the shaft ' off the shelf'

MIKE

[groucho]

Called in to my bearing place today and we looked up water pump seals.
The carbon ring ones are hard to find but the ceramic ring are the go now
He will get back to me when he finds the right type and size. Mostly made in china and india . Still quite common.......

[groucho]

We also talked about water pump bearings. As stated in a previous post they are also quite common. BUT i told him i want Quality ones. We found a range made in Sweden will see if they do the size...........

[russellrovers]

It's between the thermostat housing and the top of the pump. Killer just came by and took a look - the good news is, it's not my fault - the bad news is - the pump is coming back out and being returned to the S1 shop in Melbourne.

There is at least a 4mm gap between the copper connecting piece/washer and the thermostat/pump. Dud part. Very poor. I knew it wasn't really an "original part" when I discovered it had 6mm metric threads to attach the fan - now this. There is no way to get around this problem, so back out it comes. Back to square 1.

So I'm going to try to get a new pump from FWD or at least a kit to rebuild the original pump.

Totally ****ed off - official scratching for All British Day. At least this thread is aptly named.

hi i will bring my spare p ump jim we willcmpare it to orginal jim

[groucho]

A quote from a seller in the UK..







This is a new replacement Water Pump for the 1600 and 2 Litre engines.

A poor reproduction, not normally the quality of product we sell, however they are the only 1600/2 Litre Water Pumps available.

To fit correctly, the holes for the fixing bolts need to be drilled out oversize and part of the casting where it touches the front cover will need grinding or filing to clear.

[mildred]

A quote from a seller in the UK..







This is a new replacement Water Pump for the 1600 and 2 Litre engines.

A poor reproduction, not normally the quality of product we sell, however they are the only 1600/2 Litre Water Pumps available.

To fit correctly, the holes for the fixing bolts need to be drilled out oversize and part of the casting where it touches the front cover will need grinding or filing to clear.

that seems clear to me how about you others out there?
quotes are good

[Scallops]

Some good news now! I've got all my parts for a rebuild - ALL original too. I just took delivery of a water pump seal from Craddocks in the UK - and also now have the NOS parts to rebuild my original pump.

Well - check this out - the seal is genuine NOS too - packed in July 1956!



I reckon this is GOLD...



They also sent me an original gasket complete in 54 year old grease proof like paper - it has a wonderful yesteryear smell. God I love my Series 1.