How to integrate rear indicator lights with pork pies without changing originality?

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Originally Posted by Timj

Isn't one of the problems that if the car didn't have them originally then you don't need them but if you do put them on they have to comply with ADRs?

I think that is why the one above has large lights in one picture and small ones in another if I remember the post correctly. That might make it illegal to use the front park lights as indicators since they would not be big enough or the right colour to comply with ADRs.

TimJ.

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as said earlier - check out BACKIN's thread, his is fully registered after inspection (on historic plate but full inspectiion) he used leds in front lights I believe yellow leds used.

Hi All
Thanks Digger for the praise
The fronts are a twin mini globe in a twin socket
available through Tony Pearson (Classic Globes)
cars before 1960 something had white front indicator lamps
the other element is the parking light.
the rear ones must be orange, nothing will work through a red lens and show orange.
You can not show a white light at the rear of a vehicle, must be orange.
The rear is a orange classic type also from the above
it mounts flat, only 2 mounting holes and a small hole and grommet for the wire.
He also has period reflectors, look the same as the original as used on L/R
cheers
Ian

When my series 1 gets back on the road it will have front parkers flashers and at the rear it will have the flashers operating through the brake lights (so flashing red) in the pork pies as it was originally built - the same as the OP was asking about in the first post.

Garry

Hi Garry
good idea
love to see you convince Mr Plod when the red lights flash and the brake lights come on full, flashing light would be hard to see.
Road laws such as they are, rear flashers have be orange.
Well in South Aust, that is the rules. As you know we have Australian wide road rules (joke).
I would check with your Reg dept, to make sure you can, be bummer to have it defected down the road.
cheers
Ian

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Originally Posted by back_in

love to see you convince Mr Plod when the red lights flash and the brake lights come on full, flashing light would be hard to see.

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It's legal in NSW at least for cars of a certain age. I'm not sure of when the cut off is but before that date, cars can have either amber or red indicators (like some older Holdens - FC for example).
Converting to flashing brake lights is a fairly common mod to some trafficator equipped cars.

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Originally Posted by back_in

Hi Garry
good idea
love to see you convince Mr Plod when the red lights flash and the brake lights come on full, flashing light would be hard to see.
Road laws such as they are, rear flashers have be orange.
Well in South Aust, that is the rules. As you know we have Australian wide road rules (joke).
I would check with your Reg dept, to make sure you can, be bummer to have it defected down the road.
cheers
Ian

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The flashing light overrides the brake light on the side being flashed. These are original equipment and standard on my model in 1957 and as ADRs are not retrospective are perfectly legal, as are not having seatbelts, windscreen washers etc.

The ADRs are not retrospective in SA so will be legal there too.

Garry

I may be incorrect but I believe brake/tail lights used as indicators have always been outlawed in SA.

I recal mid 80's a friends imported vehicle (yank tank) had flashing rear red lights and had to have exterior amber lights fitted to be registered.

As you say this may be an SA thing only but I cannot recall any SA vehicle with red tail lights etc as indicators.

(SA vehicles also had to have some type of rear reflector if I recall correctly)

as said this is just my belief Im open to correction!

cheers
digger

Hi All
Garry may be right
As the Hist.Reg for my Club, I have to go as i been told
in saying that i have seen flashing rear red lights on L.H. drive Yank Tanks
If changed to Right Hand drive they have to comply etc etc.
I think it is or could be a can of worms.
cheers
Ian

When I went to the registration process (Vic roads) last year I understood that.... if you make any changes to the originality of the vehicle (such as replaced engine) you will have to comply with all current requirements when (re-)registering. This would include seatbelts, lights, and who knows what else.

I was thus told that I would not need seatbelts for my original Series 1 of 1958, but that this excemption is for adult passengers only. Children below 12 always need seatbelts, even in a classic fully original.

I may be wrong or misinformed.

But again guys, the topic is not the legality. It is the how to...?

Hi there

I might have to ask the question as I am not to sure:

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I was thus told that I would not need seatbelts for my original Series 1 of 1958, but that this excemption is for adult passengers only. Children below 12 always need seatbelts

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This might be some thing for Digger to put his work hat on - as havent heard this one. I have just been back through the Historical Rego book given to you by Motor Registration in SA (No Comment on the above)

Can any one help, as I love taking the kids for a drive, the wife and the kids use it most nights to exercise the horses.

Wayne