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  1. #41
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    Sorry guys, I didn't take a car trailer with me ... just told the wife I may as well. You are correct slug-burner, taking a car trailer would have shot any bargaining power but even if I'd taken a trailer I would have unhitched down the road a few kms and turned up without it initially.

    So the S1 is now confirmed as a 1952 by virtue of the chassis number. I checked that the numbers matched on the 4WD instruction plate on the firewall and on the engine mount tab on the lhs chassis rail.
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    Unfortunately I couldn't find the engine number but I did find the date stamp on each of the four wheels. The two drivers side wheels were both stamped the same 10/49 while the other wheels were 6/53 and 12/51.
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    Apart from the dates, my closer second look revealed a few other things. The front grille panel is cracked in a couple of places and a previous owner has bolted on two small flat steel brackets to hold it together.
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    The firewall is rotten through on the drivers side at the box section end that the inner fenders and the door hinges bolt to.
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    That explains my mystery from the first visit as to why steel straps had been bolted to the outside of the fenders. Similar, but not quite as bad, on the passenger side.

    There is also an area of rust through the inner firewall panel on both sides.
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    It looks like Photobucket has packed a sad so I won't bother writing up any more until it sorts itself out. I have a few more photo's and more details to come yet and still need some advice on a couple of aspects. I'll try again tomorrow night.
    Cheers
    John B

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    Well good on you for doing a thorough recce!

    I would have been surprised if the bulkhead hadn't been rusty in those places - they all rust there!

    The engine no. is stamped on the block just in front of the exhaust manifold on the machined face; you might need emery cloth to make it appear.

    I am looking forward to your next report but I won't be able to read it for 1 week

    Cheers Charlie

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    With that much rust in the chassis and bulkhead, I reckon you have a parts car. Restoration would be a long expensive process unless you have a good chassis and a good bulkhead. A few hundred dollars would be my offer.

    If the vendor won't accept this, walk away, unless you are a masochist, or an eccentric millionaire.
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    ^^ I'm with Brian, I'm afraid.....

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    Only worth a few hundred at most with that rust - chassis is not suspect as well. That looks like dampness around that rust - but isn't it parked in a shed under cover.

    However if you were to find a good firewall, the car might be worth getting if the price was right.

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    I just hope the little truck gets restored one day - either by you, JayBo, getting it at the right price, or by some one else.
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    Price

    My opinion for what it is worth $650 top price.
    I would give no more than this and I have spare firewalls and chassis.
    Dennis

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    I won't fast forward to the end (I've still got pictures to post), but I'm in tune with the general sentiment in your responses.

    It was great to have the old S1 pushed out of the shed because the first visit I couldn't really get inside to check the inside of the firewall or the rear cross member. Also with all four tyres flat there simply wasn't enough room for me to shimmy underneath for a good look. The farmer brought his compressor out and pumped up all four tyres. After 30 years parked in the shed, all four tyres blew up and held air. Amazing! This despite at least one of the tyres having a severe crack in the sidewall about 6" long.

    Anyway, on with the show...
    So the rear cross member didn't look so go at first glance from the rear.
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    However any thought that maybe it could be sorted was soon thrown out when viewing the underneath.
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    I can't remember which cross member this is but it wasn't too pretty. I think it's just rear of the gearbox cross member.
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    The actual gearbox cross member looks like it's had a steel plate welded under it.
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    I did say it had been parked right up against the rear of the shed didn't I?
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    Another thing I was keen to check out was how much damage had been done to the dash when fitting the incorrect speedo. So I pulled out my screwdrivers and removed the square panel that had been made to mount the bigger speedo to see what was behind. Not a pretty sight! The panel has just been butchered. The speedo cable obviously didn't line up with the grommeted hole in the firewall so it looks like the hole was elongated ... using a big pair of pliers or similar.
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    I was also disappointed to find that the speedo panel had been screwed through the Transfer Case instruction plate on the firewall, leaving a self tapped hole in the plate. Arrgghhh.

    I also noticed another crack in the front fender that led to a further discovery. The front grille panel has been welded to the fenders! The aluminium of the fenders has cracked so the bolted section was free so good old farmer mate (previous owner) has attacked it with a welder.
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    The rear sliding windows seemed okay. (As long as you don't mind your "windows" being opaque that is). One actually moved a few inches but the only thing stopping both from working is the 30 years of dust in the aluminium tracks.
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    Steering wheel seemed reasonable and the indicator stalk still moved and felt like a good "click" into each position.
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    So, overall, I'm quite disappointed. I guess I'd kinda fallen for the old thing but it's just not worth anywhere near the money he's asking. I doubt I'll get anywhere with him because he seems to be under some spell where he thinks he has squirrelled away a gold nugget worth a squillion dollars. He also says one of the two previous people to have a look at it told him he'd get $5,500 for it. I'll try but it's a long way from $4,500 to $600!

    A couple of memories maybe?
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    Cheers
    John B
    Last edited by JayBoRover; 15th November 2010 at 10:46 PM. Reason: Added one last picture

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    The body work is quite decent, though would take alot of work but it is doable.
    Iam sure that if you go out searching you may well find a series 1 in better cond and for a lot less the $4,000.

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    Look upon it as a learning experience It hasn't been a waste of time at all, as you have found out a lot of things about Series Landies.

    Keep looking, and another opportunity will come up.

    Thanks for posting all the photos. Very interesting.

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