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    Help identify a Series 1

    Hello all,
    One of my friends and I have gotten interested in restoring his family's series 1 Land Rover, which hasn't moved for many years.

    First thing to do is actually identify what it is, which is a bit much for my current skill level!

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    A few obvious things are
    - soft roof & hoops intact
    - massive dents everywhere - one of us is going to get a lot of bodywork experience...
    - lots of bits missing e.g. wipers, upper doors
    - non-series 1 LHS fender, pushed inwards

    I hope that having been out in the country it's whole life will have saved it from much rust.

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    Looks like a 88" basic - 2 litre. Most likely 57 or 58. This is based on the 88" radiator panel but they can be changed easily enough.

    If you put up the chassis number and engine number then that will provide confirmation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubdocker View Post
    Hello all,
    One of my friends and I have gotten interested in restoring his family's series 1 Land Rover, which hasn't moved for many years.

    First thing to do is actually identify what it is, which is a bit much for my current skill level!
    Give us a car number and we can tell you (or look it up on CalVIN (Clifton Scientific Text Services, the Netherlands)) The number should be on a plate on the firewall with the transfer case instructions.

    As Garry says the grill looks 1957/58 88" but to my mind the guards/wheelarch look to be an earlier 86" but the image angle makes that assessment difficult.

    To my eye the LHS mudguard is an earlier 80" guard with a headlight hole.

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Give us a car number and we can tell you (or look it up on CalVIN (Clifton Scientific Text Services, the Netherlands)) The number should be on a plate on the firewall with the transfer case instructions.

    As Garry says the grill looks 1957/58 88" but to my mind the guards/wheelarch look to be an earlier 86" but the image angle makes that assessment difficult.

    To my eye the LHS mudguard is an earlier 80" guard with a headlight hole.
    yes one piece gaurd (bugger about the hole!) may need to find another tub, whats the rust like in the chassis and firewall (may be a problem being it has a crop growing up under/around it!)

    as already said, CALVIN is your friend!
    (REMLR 235/MVCA 9) 80" -'49.(RUST), -'50 & '52. (53-parts) 88" -57 s1, -'63 -s2a -GS x 2-"Horrie"-112-769, "Vet"-112-429(-Vietnam-PRE 1ATF '65) ('66, s2a-as UN CIVPOL), Hans '73- s3 109" '56 s1 x2 77- s3 van (gone)& '12- 110

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubdocker View Post
    A few obvious things are
    - soft roof & hoops intact
    - massive dents everywhere - one of us is going to get a lot of bodywork experience...
    - lots of bits missing e.g. wipers, upper doors
    - non-series 1 LHS fender, pushed inwards

    I hope that having been out in the country it's whole life will have saved it from much rust.
    having the hoops is a very good thing

    dents.... remember its not normal body panel and may require different methods..

    wipers bolt straight through the hole at base of windscreen
    upper doors, nah, don't need em!


    and as said front lhs guard is a True series 1 guard (all one piece firewall to bottom front) from an 80" (the first landies) indicating this is 86"?
    (REMLR 235/MVCA 9) 80" -'49.(RUST), -'50 & '52. (53-parts) 88" -57 s1, -'63 -s2a -GS x 2-"Horrie"-112-769, "Vet"-112-429(-Vietnam-PRE 1ATF '65) ('66, s2a-as UN CIVPOL), Hans '73- s3 109" '56 s1 x2 77- s3 van (gone)& '12- 110

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    My Guess

    Hi Dubdocker

    My thoughts are that it is a 88" 1957, soft top, looking forward to the finding out by the serial numbers.

    clues are;

    The swing down number plate bracket, later models.
    Horn button on the stork.
    Horn mounted under and to the bonnet itself.
    Fully floating rear axles, ( about 7/8" shorter each side than the series two , series two axles can be used by fitting a spacer's under the driving flange).
    Radiator panel with one hole and made from steel.
    Plate under the draw hitch only fitted to later series ones, earlier series ones had the wider draw bar hitch bolted under the chassis with a line of holes in it.
    The brackets fitted at the top of the windscreen frame, are to hold the windscreen down when the soft top is taken off, they were not always fitted in the later hardtop models.

    Cheers Arthur

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger View Post
    and as said front lhs guard is a True series 1 guard (all one piece firewall to bottom front) from an 80" (the first landies) indicating this is 86"?
    That LHS guard is a ring in - what is a True series 1 guard? - lol.

    That RHS guard definitely looks like it has the extra 2" in it so an 88 which when tied in with the 88 radiator panel indicates more than likely a 88 rather than a 86.

    But as indicated the chassis number will tell all.

    Garry
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    1977 FC 101
    1976 Jaguar XJ12C
    1973 Haflinger AP700
    1971 Jaguar V12 E-Type Series 3 Roadster
    1957 Series 1 88"
    1957 Series 1 88" Station Wagon

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinklearthur View Post
    Hi Dubdocker

    My thoughts are that it is a 88" 1957, soft top, looking forward to the finding out by the serial numbers.

    clues are; ...
    <snip>
    I think the quiz winner is Arthur because of his extensive list of clues, Arthur gets an early mark, to the runner up Garry for being first correct answer, a box of chocolates, Garry you just need to pop over and pick them up!

    Diana

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    That LHS guard is a ring in - what is a True series 1 guard? - lol.
    Garry

    yeah, badly worded, true series one was my way of trying to say first of the series 1's...(the 80's)

    sort of a series 1/2 (0.5) maybe?
    (REMLR 235/MVCA 9) 80" -'49.(RUST), -'50 & '52. (53-parts) 88" -57 s1, -'63 -s2a -GS x 2-"Horrie"-112-769, "Vet"-112-429(-Vietnam-PRE 1ATF '65) ('66, s2a-as UN CIVPOL), Hans '73- s3 109" '56 s1 x2 77- s3 van (gone)& '12- 110

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