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Thread: 1956 Series 1 with PTO welder (home made)

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    Hi Gromit

    Just wondering what paint you use that is brake fluid resistant? I would like to get some.

    Thanks Paul

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    Try these PPC - Restoration Specialists or Rust Stops Here - Paint - Tank Sealer - for rusty surfaces - KBS Coatings. Both produce paints that can only be removed by physical abrasion, chemical paint removers will not shift the coatings they provide. Not everyone likes them as they go off with moisture can bubble if put on too thick and you have to schedule your painting to get the coats on before the earlier coat goes too hard.
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    Maybe we're expecting too much out of what really is a smallish motor allready pushing 2 tonnes. Just because it's a v8 doesn't mean it's powerfull.

    One answer REV IT BABY REV IT!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bundy View Post
    Hi Gromit

    Just wondering what paint you use that is brake fluid resistant? I would like to get some.

    Thanks Paul
    It's a brake caliper paint from SuperCheap in a rattle can. States it's 'brake dust resistant' which is odd but I think they mean brake fluid resistant.
    Did some trials and it definitely resists brake fluid.
    It's available in red, blue & yellow but if you look at the back of the cabinet you'll find black (not a popular colour with the boy racers).


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    Hi Gromit,

    just went through your thread, that is definitely an aircraft generator connected to the PTO (heaven knows I have adjusted hundreds of newer ones).

    Wonderful old machine with so much history, great to see it being looked after and used

    Cheers
    Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyGM View Post
    Hi Gromit,

    just went through your thread, that is definitely an aircraft generator connected to the PTO (heaven knows I have adjusted hundreds of newer ones).

    Wonderful old machine with so much history, great to see it being looked after and used

    Cheers
    Matt
    Matt

    I keep saying I'm going to try out the welder but don't get round to it.
    Apparently the previous owner used it so I should pluck up the courage (and get a fire extinguisher ready)......


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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    Matt

    I keep saying I'm going to try out the welder but don't get round to it.
    Apparently the previous owner used it so I should pluck up the courage (and get a fire extinguisher ready)......


    Colin
    Definitely with the extinguisher handy but those generators are pretty tough units, can ask one of the sparkies I used to work with (I am a fitter/machinist) the specs on the 747/767 units, would be pretty close by the look of that.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyGM View Post
    Definitely with the extinguisher handy but those generators are pretty tough units, can ask one of the sparkies I used to work with (I am a fitter/machinist) the specs on the 747/767 units, would be pretty close by the look of that.

    Cheers
    Matt
    I doubt it is even very close (although knowing how conservative things tend to be in the aviation world, where everything needs to be certified, I may be wrong). Given the apparent vintage of the conversion (1950s) it is a pretty good guess that the generator is a disposals unit from WW2, possibly Korean war. (But the 747 is a 1960s design and electrical equipment could well be very similar to that used in the 1940s - after all, significant parts of the 1960s Landrovers date to that era; for example, the six cylinder engine was patented in 1940 - and the diffs and gearbox went back to the 1930s.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    I doubt it is even very close (although knowing how conservative things tend to be in the aviation world, where everything needs to be certified, I may be wrong). Given the apparent vintage of the conversion (1950s) it is a pretty good guess that the generator is a disposals unit from WW2, possibly Korean war. (But the 747 is a 1960s design and electrical equipment could well be very similar to that used in the 1940s - after all, significant parts of the 1960s Landrovers date to that era; for example, the six cylinder engine was patented in 1940 - and the diffs and gearbox went back to the 1930s.)

    John
    The housings look identical and somehow I doubt they have changed much over the years. I assume US aircraft have used 28 V DC and 115 V AC for quite a long time

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    I'll have to take some better photos of the generator, the one below was taken soon after I collected it.

    I can see Type P3 on the label and the serial number starts with ES.

    DSCF2135 by Colin Radley, on Flickr

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    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
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    '70 SIIa GS
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    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
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    p3 is a good indication , but what other data is on the plate, serial no doesn't mean much.
    biggest question is what voltage is it?
    all wartime aircraft that may have had that bolted to their big old radial engine would have been 24 volt,
    I doubt that it came from a jet engine, but if so may well have been 115 ac.
    can you give us all the data on that plate?
    Safe Travels
    harry

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