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    Today 2 Series 1 questions...

    What later Chrome balls are compatible with my '55 S1 86"?

    All Series? any later?

    What Starter motors will suit the 2 Litre petrol?

    Thanks in anticipation

    Brad

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    AFAIK the later s1 is the same or similar enough with 2.2a.3

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    S1 Starter

    Will a later starter fit a 2litre?

    Series 2 or 3?

    Defender/ Disco RR ?

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    Chrome balls are compatible all the way through. 80" were slightly different but from 86" on they all were the size to fit the universal joint inside. They are available as a whole kit in the UK (DLS landrover on ebay have them) that includes the conversion to railko bush on the top rather than the brass cone bush or just the ball itself.

    Starter motors you would have to be careful of the fact that the 2 litre motor probably does not have the same starter as the 2.25 (bellhousing is different I believe). Also the 2 litre would originally have been positive earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timj View Post
    ........ Also the 2 litre would originally have been positive earth.

    Cheers,

    TimJ.
    Polarity is irrelevant for starter motors. For example, changing from positive to negative earth on Series Landrovers requires only changing the battery connections, repolarising the generator, and, pre-1967, reversing ammeter connections. No action required for starters.

    But I don't know whether the Series 1 motor starter is interchangeable with Series 2/3.

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    yes the bellhousing is different from s1-s2/2a/3. the bellhousing on the later series has a bigger space for the starter motor so that does make me think they are probably different

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    I know that the starter motor from a series 2A with a 2.6 petrol fits the later series 1 full flow 2 litre motor

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    Tim - if switching an 80" over to newer swivels with raiko bushing - is there any implication with the outer housing or is that interchangable?
    Thanks drew

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    Today 2 Series 1 questions...

    Hi Drew,

    Series 1 and half way through Series 2 had the steering arm on the top of the housing so the pin for the bush is pressed into the arm. You have to replace the pin with the one in the kit which means you probably need a press. I don't think it would be possible with a hammer but might just be with a big vice used as a press. The earlier pin was splined to hold the brass bush at the right orientation. It's much easier to put bottom bearings and the bush housing in with a press anyway.

    Cheers,

    TimJ
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    Today 2 Series 1 questions...

    Also there are differences with the size of the threaded studs between early housings and later but I think that may have been when the arm was moved to the bottom of the housing. It's critical to make sure they are the right ones or the arm can move or come loose enough to break the studs.

    TimJ.
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    Barney - 1979 S3 GS ex ADF with 300tdi
    Arnie - 1975 710M Pinzgauer

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