No Start After a Long Rest

**101RRS** · 25th November 2013, 04:35 PM

I need to move my Station Wagon from the back yard to the front yard and then to the side of the house.

It has a 2 litre siamese engine in it and was driven to its current position in 2007 parked and not started or moved since. At the time the engine would start easily.

I could tow and winch the wagon around with my 101 but would really be a difficult task so I thought I would fire it up and drive it around.

I connected up a battery (cannot remember if it is +ive or -ive earth but doesn't matter), poured some petrol down the carby and hit the stater - turned over OK but no fire. As there is plenty of fuel in the intake I believe there is no spark.

I put a timing light on number 1 lead - no light but when I bypassed the car's electrics and connected the coil to an intermittent 12v source the coil is firing - that really only leaves points or condensor.

As everything was running when parked up and I don't really want to start pulling things apart I am now thinking condensor - unlikely that the points would start have issues just sitting there.

So I want to replace the condensor - so do I need the exact condensor that fits or can anyone old one I can buy from Supercheap work?

If the issue is more serious then I will just have to tow, winch and push the vehicle around the block.

Garry

**bee utey** · 25th November 2013, 05:16 PM

Run a bit of fine wet and dry up the points, they've probably developed a nice patina by now. Silver is not 100% corrosion proof. Also make sure the terminal from the points is tight and clean. To test I usually short the points with an insulated screwdriver and flick them rapidly until the dead spot becomes apparent. Check they're not binding on the post either. If the condenser is dead you'll get a very weak spark providing the points are clean. A radio suppressor can be pressed into service instead if needed, just put it on the neg coil terminal instead of the positive.

**muddy** · 25th November 2013, 06:22 PM

Is there a stickng valve/valves?

**LoveB** · 27th November 2013, 09:38 AM

Gary I tried a super cheap one for mine but it wouldn't fire. That said there was probably other stuff wrong lol. I've got one we can try if you need it. Otherwise glad to give you a hand

**PhilipA** · 27th November 2013, 09:45 AM

If the condenser is gone, if you flick the points open there will be a large yellow spark . If the condenser is good there will be a small blue spark.
geez, I am dredging memory now .
Regards Philip A

**back_in** · 27th November 2013, 02:11 PM

Hi
one very quick method get 6 strong boys to push while you steer
other way, pull pugs out, squirt of oil down each pug hole, disconnect coil,
using a fully charged battery wind the starter in the gear needed
2 minutes later job finished
cheers
Ian

**wrinklearthur** · 28th November 2013, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by back_in

Hi
one very quick method get 6 strong boys to push while you steer
other way, pull pugs out, squirt of oil down each pug hole, disconnect coil,
using a fully charged battery wind the starter in the gear needed
2 minutes later job finished

Oh No, not another enema !

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**101RRS** · 28th November 2013, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by back_in

other way, pull pugs out, squirt of oil down each pug hole, disconnect coil,
using a fully charged battery wind the starter in the gear needed
2 minutes later job finished
cheers
Ian

Thanks Ian but the move is just a bit too far for the that.

Garry

**Lost Landy** · 28th November 2013, 09:11 PM

I have a great idea on moving it, I can load it onto a car trailer and tow it up to Brisbane

**LR1953** · 30th November 2013, 05:34 PM

Gary, in my 1953 siamese bore engine I use a Bosch GL103 condenser and Bosch GL10 pointset. Available from Bursons. Make sure your fuel isn't stale too.

Good Luck! Rob S

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