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    The old brake fluid bottle and a short piece of fuel line are a staple piece in my shed!!

    Thanks for the tips, the oil is still fluid

    Ive had this problem with a hilux before, The oil solidified and the crank would push slowly through the treacle until it could spin OK and when it would start and then begin to idle OK, youd then check the oil and all was OK.

    At that time I was hardly driving it but had it serviced locally but turns out he wasnt changing oils and fluids!! (bastard) He ended up paying for the engine rebuild.


    I have no key but thats OK because there is no ignition barrel, and no wiring to the starter button.... so I assume that a screwdriver to ark over end of starter motor to turn it over?.

    Im looking at stripping all the wiring away and starting with a battery and motor!

    I appreciate the advice and tips so far thanks.
    (REMLR 235/MVCA 9) 80" -'49.(RUST), -'50 & '52. (53-parts) 88" -57 s1, -'63 -s2a -GS x 2-"Horrie"-112-769, "Vet"-112-429(-Vietnam-PRE 1ATF '65) ('66, s2a-as UN CIVPOL), Hans '73- s3 109" '56 s1 x2 77- s3 van (gone)& '12- 110

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger View Post

    Im looking at stripping all the wiring away and starting with a battery and motor!

    I appreciate the advice and tips so far thanks.
    how many wires can there be?
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    short light

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    how many wires can there be?
    A few that look a lot.

    If I get off my sorry, I should be able to scan the workshop manual page that has the wiring schematic and the colour codes for the wires as well. Maybe later tonight.

    If you apply voltage directly to any wire, according to Murphy's law that's always the one that contains the essential smoke, which as you all know is required for things to run.

    By hooking power directly to a wire is tempting fate, so the way around this is to provide protection in the form of a light bulb in series with the power supply, so in short when there is a short the light bulb lights up and Murphy mucks up.

    For most fault finding a headlight bulb does the job fine and for the headlights themselves you can wire both of the test bulb filaments together so they in parallel within the circuit. If this is confusing anyone drop me a line and I will show by a sketch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post


    how many wires can there be?


    a few

    and a 51 diagram just in case

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    wiring diagram

    Please it is Digger you are helping
    wiring Diagrams are outside the training given to SA finest
    Digger if I was not going to NZ on Friday I would have come up and showed you how
    ring me and I will tell you in 2 minutes before I leave
    cheers
    Ian

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    And I got wet

    Thank's Inc, I had just come back inside after feeding the animals, wet, there was a shower of rain and probably the only one that will happen out of this weather front.

    The numbers beside the wires are a bit hazy but you should be able to make them out if you enlarge the picture to 200%.
    Sing out if you have trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by digger View Post

    I have no key but thats OK because there is no ignition barrel, and no wiring to the starter button.... so I assume that a screwdriver to ark over end of starter motor to turn it over?.

    Im looking at stripping all the wiring away and starting with a battery and motor!

    If the wiring to the starter switch is still in place and unburnt, leave it alone and the switch will turn the starter.

    On my car the switch had seized, so I prized it apart; cleaned it with lemon juice and packed it with vaseline before reassembling.

    If you hot-wire the coil as I described, you don't need the ignition switch - I didn't have one either!

    What I forgot to mention in my earlier post before I rushed out the door to work, is that the second test lead can be connected between the coil CB and the distributor, if your original wiring is missing or damaged,

    Cheers Charlie

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    yes Inc, very good
    (you did put that in the AULRO files section didnt you)
    but thats to make it legal all over the world,,
    to make it run/turnover how many?
    4 maybe?
    "How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"

    '93 V8 Rossi
    '97 to '07. sold.
    '01 V8 D2
    '06 to 10. written off.
    '03 4.6 V8 HSE D2a with Tornado ECM
    '10 to '21
    '16.5 RRS SDV8
    '21 to Infinity and Beyond!


    1988 Isuzu Bus. V10 15L NA Diesel
    Home is where you park it..

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    Guys,
    Thanks!

    Inc, thanks for that, I did already have those but as all the wires are white cloth it makes it hard to work out what is what, they are all very crusty too so will almost certainly ark out anyway..

    I tried pulling the wires in further to show some of the wire from the firewall (hopefully still with colour) but appears at some stage someone has done this already and there is no colour (so the wire diagram would read 1 white, 2 white, 3 white, 4 white, 5 white....you get the idea )

    Ian,
    Cheers, I'll give you a bell if I still have your number, I lost most of mine when my phone needed a new card...

    Thanks Charlie,
    The starter in this has a bakelite knob (and is so far over its more a job for the passenger! ) and I have already got that free and popping in and out nicely...(if it works? complete another matter)

    There was no 'main lead" from the starter button down to the starter motor, I have put on on that I had but believe as all the other wiring is toast that it may not help...

    As Pedro has put, (Thanks Pedro) I'm after the absolute basics Id need to do to spin it over if it were sitting on the floor of the shed (which it wont be as thats dirt! )


    Wiring Loom...
    I will almost certainly be ordering another loom from AUTO SPARKS theyve been very impressive with btheir gear so far... will try more local suppliers for price but both last times they were 1/3 more expensive -I will support local (aust) but I cant afford to sponsor them -

    The loom there (in cloth braid and same colour wires as original, have ends already fitted) including a loom set to operate both indicators and trafficators at the same time is @ GBP 205.

    Need to get a quote from VINWIRE to see how they fare.


    in relation to colour, I assume green with green chassis (looking at what little paint is left on it) but dark or light green ?
    Cheers
    Digger
    (REMLR 235/MVCA 9) 80" -'49.(RUST), -'50 & '52. (53-parts) 88" -57 s1, -'63 -s2a -GS x 2-"Horrie"-112-769, "Vet"-112-429(-Vietnam-PRE 1ATF '65) ('66, s2a-as UN CIVPOL), Hans '73- s3 109" '56 s1 x2 77- s3 van (gone)& '12- 110

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger View Post
    Guys,
    <<snip>>Wiring Loom...
    I will almost certainly be ordering another loom from AUTO SPARKS theyve been very impressive with btheir gear so far... will try more local suppliers for price but both last times they were 1/3 more expensive -I will support local (aust) but I cant afford to sponsor them -

    The loom there (in cloth braid and same colour wires as original, have ends already fitted) including a loom set to operate both indicators and trafficators at the same time is @ GBP 205.

    Need to get a quote from VINWIRE to see how they fare.
    <<snip>>
    VINWIRE, loom for vehicle is $428.-
    thats a basic loom, (no indicators etc) as would have been original.
    I need to ring them as I believe its $16 a metre extra for cotton braided loom
    and I cant find a price for a trafficator/indicator loom...

    They do however have the flexible metal tubing needed for trafficator wiring..



    The GBP205 converts to about A$382.. so puts vinwire in the ballpark, depending on their trafficator/indicator loom cost.

    (The autosparks one contains all relays etc required)
    (REMLR 235/MVCA 9) 80" -'49.(RUST), -'50 & '52. (53-parts) 88" -57 s1, -'63 -s2a -GS x 2-"Horrie"-112-769, "Vet"-112-429(-Vietnam-PRE 1ATF '65) ('66, s2a-as UN CIVPOL), Hans '73- s3 109" '56 s1 x2 77- s3 van (gone)& '12- 110

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