Reply With Quotelooks like 2 x 80" firewalls!!
Hope it goes well
ChatterBox
In among other things we acquired a 1948 / 1949 front fish plate chassis and an assortment of parts belonging to this from a collection we bought from Mudgee a while back. These were strewn out over a few acres, in among other Land Rover parts and also old tractor parts etc etc.
Tub with shovel backed seats on the right.
One of my future projects (2 years hence) is to rebuild this vehicle. This could take years!
Items which we have include:
Chassis rust free, Firewall rust free, with ID plate
Rear tub with seat backs attached (in several pieces), Seat box and floor panels with ring pull hole ? no cutout for the gearstick, guards pretty chatty, doors I think
Ring pull gearbox
Front axle assembly hub to hub and Rear axle housing, front and rear springs
Radiator support ? missing headlights
All early brake parts
I am searching for parts to restore this vehicle. I have a 50 build 80 inch which has many generic parts suiting both models, but what parts are unique to the 48 / 49 model.
I don't have the original engine but do have several 1.6 engines which require rebuilding 1 x 1950 build and 2 x 1951 build.
One thing we noted today was that the tow bar bracket on the rear is welded on and not bolted as in later vehicles. Also, what are the extra brackets on the rear of the chassis?
Ring pull gearbox
radiator support with Fergie lights
Long nose diff in rebuilt front end
Known parts required
Date stamped wheels and radiator. Front bumper, long nose diff for the rear.
Any suggestions to the differences from to these early vehicles to say a 57 model would be appreciated. I am going through James Taylor's book again.
Erich
ForumSage
Subscriberlooks like 2 x 80" firewalls!!
Hope it goes well
(REMLR 235/MVCA 9) 80" -'49.(RUST), -'50 & '52. (53-parts) 88" -57 s1, -'63 -s2a -GS x 2-"Horrie"-112-769, "Vet"-112-429(-Vietnam-PRE 1ATF '65) ('66, s2a-as UN CIVPOL), Hans '73- s3 109" '56 s1 x2 77- s3 van (gone)& '12- 110
ForumSage
Hi Eric
You have some real Rocking Horse Stuff there.
Place the belt pulley on the shrine of Land Rover Memorabilia and pay homage to it's entirety every morning.
The hood bows have been presented to you by an unseen hand and these also must be treated with reverence.
Well done on the find and I will keep an eye open for your list of things that you will be needing.
.
YarnMaster
SupporterGood Stuff Erich.
There are a few early ones turning up in OZ now.
The keepers of these have joined the LRSOC and more specifically the
Land Rover Register.
I joined that back in the 80,s when I got the Tickford.
Both clubs have really usefull magazines with The Register dealing with the early 80 inch models. Back issues are available and they are online in the archives as well for members to read.
Land Rover Series One Club
Keith
Wizard
My '49 has hydrostatic brakes. I don't know how long these continued for, but yours isn't that far after mine. What colour is your chassis? Does your chasis number match the firewall, and be close to axle and gearbox numbers?
Aaron
RoverLord
According to Smith, the Hydrastatic (sic) brakes were officially replaced at 8666000, but in practice they used up the supply of parts on hand. And some may have been upgraded later anyway.Originally Posted by Aaron IIA
John
John
JDNSW
1986 110 County 3.9 diesel
1970 2a 109 2.25 petrol
ChatterBox
As far as I can tell numbers are in the correct area. I can only read a partial on the rear diff but it begins with an 8 and that is good. The firewall plaque is photographed above.
Chassis number R8665256
Gearbox 865849
Rear axle housing starts with an eight which is good
Front Axle 865434? sounds good.
As for the paint colour, I have looked hard and can't make out original colour, it is very faded or non-existent. I suspect it is the darker bronze green, rather than the lighter green. By James Tayler's book the paint changed in approx June 1949.
I have tried to research the age of this vehicle and the nearest number I can find which makes sense is a number of vehicles between R8667898 and R8667895 were sold between the 15/9/49 and the 29/9/49. Working back makes this a late July 1949 car? Is this in the ball park?
Can someone please advise the difference between hydrostatic, semi hydrostatic or hydraulic brakes of later vehicles or link to a website. I sort of understand I think but not sure.
I have at least 1 set of early brake backing plates without the snail adjuster.
Erich
RoverLord
Hydrastatic brakes.
Quoting from Newnes -
"shoes are in constant contact with drums - there are no pulloff springs and no clearance. ....... The brake employs two shoes hinged on a fulcrum pin at the bottom. At the top is a simple wheel cylinder containing a pair of opposed short pistons . Outer end of each piston is slotted to engage tip of adjacent brake shoe. At the bottom of shoes, close to fulcrum point, is a light spring. This is called a "bias" reducing spring, and its purpose is mainly to hold shoes together sufficiently to prevent any tendency of tip of leading shoe to grab and to balance the outward pressure of the wheel cylinder spring........."High spot Lining*" - Later type hydrastatic brakes were fitted with a high spot lining on the leading shoe. Due to direction of rotation of the drum, a slight servo action tends to throw leading shoe into drum causing a tendency towards binding. With the high spot lining the shoe is cut across the entire width, and a spring loaded plunger raises surface of the cut edge a fraction above surrounding lining, thus preventing the leading edge coming in contact with the drum."
They go on to emphasise that the shoes must be accurately ground to the correct radius, and that great care must be taken not to overstretch either the wheel cylinder spring or the bias reducing spring.
* This applies to the Landrover ones.
Hope this helps,
John
Last edited by JDNSW; 2nd November 2015 at 02:14 PM. Reason: More info
John
JDNSW
1986 110 County 3.9 diesel
1970 2a 109 2.25 petrol
Master
This is REAL restoration stuff - find a fan belt and build a car. Well done for taking it on.
What's this book by James Taylor you keep referring to?
Master
hi i have in stock one long nose diff also 11 48 radiator also guards and doors and a very nice tub all these parts are in first class condition also a complete guages for the 80 inch my present restoration is chassi no 8665291 april 14 th 1949 your no 8665256 which makes it 35 in front of mine i would say build date april 7 1949 approxi also have put on the forum for sale 2 early 1600 motors also your colour is sage green your landy is very rare and highly colletable if you need any help be free to phone me regards jimIn among other things we acquired a 1948 / 1949 front fish plate chassis and an assortment of parts belonging to this from a collection we bought from Mudgee a while back. These were strewn out over a few acres, in among other Land Rover parts and also old tractor parts etc etc.
Tub with shovel backed seats on the right.
One of my future projects (2 years hence) is to rebuild this vehicle. This could take years!
Items which we have include:
Chassis rust free, Firewall rust free, with ID plate
Rear tub with seat backs attached (in several pieces), Seat box and floor panels with ring pull hole ? no cutout for the gearstick, guards pretty chatty, doors I think
Ring pull gearbox
Front axle assembly hub to hub and Rear axle housing, front and rear springs
Radiator support ? missing headlights
All early brake parts
I am searching for parts to restore this vehicle. I have a 50 build 80 inch which has many generic parts suiting both models, but what parts are unique to the 48 / 49 model.
I don't have the original engine but do have several 1.6 engines which require rebuilding 1 x 1950 build and 2 x 1951 build.
One thing we noted today was that the tow bar bracket on the rear is welded on and not bolted as in later vehicles. Also, what are the extra brackets on the rear of the chassis?
Ring pull gearbox
radiator support with Fergie lights
Long nose diff in rebuilt front end
Known parts required
Date stamped wheels and radiator. Front bumper, long nose diff for the rear.
Any suggestions to the differences from to these early vehicles to say a 57 model would be appreciated. I am going through James Taylor's book again.
Erich
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