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  1. 7th January 2016, 04:14 PM #1
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    Brakes

    Is it worth while upgrading the brakes on an 86 or 88 inch to those used on the 107 and 109 inch?

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    Depends on your attitude to keeping it original. For normal use the the 86/88 brakes are "adequate", bearing in mind the power/weight ratio and loaded weight of the Series 1.

    Certainly, long wheelbase brakes (I would use 2a brakes) will perform better, but consider the difficulty of getting a suitable master cylinder. (I assume the one you have is functional or repairable). And the lwb brakes have a reputation of being more difficult to bleed.

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    I have just ordered a new master cylinder for my 86" but went back to the UK for it, 50 quid delivered. I t seems like that all models of master cylinder are available for a similar price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcrowe69 View Post
    I have just ordered a new master cylinder for my 86" but went back to the UK for it, 50 quid delivered. I t seems like that all models of master cylinder are available for a similar price.
    An 86" master cylinder for 50GBP delivered ?
    Is it the original 3 bolt master cylinder that was fitted to the Series I ? You can change to a 2 bolt from a Series II and kits are available to do this.

    The original looks like this (this one's a pattern one for a Minerva).





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  5. 9th January 2016, 05:17 AM #5
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    Hi Colin,
    It's the two hole flange type as I couldn't find a correct three hole flange one, do you have a contact or supplier where I can get the correct unit as I was really after one?
    This what I bought
    Bearmach Land Rover Series 2 & 2a SWB 88" Brake Master Cylinder - 520849 | eBay
    Cheers Jason
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcrowe69 View Post
    Hi Colin,
    It's the two hole flange type as I couldn't find a correct three hole flange one, do you have a contact or supplier where I can get the correct unit as I was really after one?
    This what I bought
    Bearmach Land Rover Series 2 & 2a SWB 88" Brake Master Cylinder - 520849 | eBay
    Cheers Jason
    Unfortunately they are like rocking horse droppings.
    Wrinklearthur put me onto the fact that the Minerva master cylinder is identical (it would be as it's basically a Series I), someone on Ebay in Germany had a number of them for sale a while ago.

    The alternative is to get your old one (if you have it) re-sleeved.

    Here is a kit with all the parts needed to fit the later master cylinder Land Rover Series One Brake Parts Page 3 (scroll down).
    The kit saves you drilling a hole in the outrigger.

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  7. 9th January 2016, 11:08 AM #7
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    I did a lot of Googleing this morning and came across these guys in India, I sent them an email and we'll what comes back. Initially dubious but if the quality is good it might be a good source for these bits.....
    [ame]http://www.brakesofindia.com/European%201/LAND-ROVER.pdf[/ame]


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  8. 10th January 2016, 06:43 AM #8
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    Good discussion guys, I was only asking aout the 107 / 109 brakes as I have the bits, but I think I may go with the original 10 inch and I really like the conversion kit for the series 2 master cylinder.

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