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    Quote Originally Posted by dearot View Post
    To get a club permit, does the car have to have its original engine? Currently it has holden engine in it. Thanks.
    No.
    They may want it on a M plate but I've seen plenty of vehicles with modifications on H plates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    No. They may want it on a M plate but I've seen plenty of vehicles with modifications on H plates.
    M plate is modification plate and H plate is historic plate right? Is this different to club permit?
    How I get M or H plate. Sorry this club permit etc is a new thing for me. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dearot View Post
    M plate is modification plate and H plate is historic plate right? Is this different to club permit?
    How I get M or H plate. Sorry this club permit etc is a new thing for me. Thanks.
    The M plate is still a club permit.
    It is really meant for street rods, however, as your vehicle may require a VASS engineering report, your club or Vicroads may require a M plate to be issued.
    Don't ask. Barrel on as though you will be issued a H plate but if they do say an M plate, don't be surprised.
    For your purposes, they are the same thing, a club permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    The M plate is still a club permit.
    It is really meant for street rods, however, as your vehicle may require a VASS engineering report, your club or Vicroads may require a M plate to be issued.
    Don't ask. Barrel on as though you will be issued a H plate but if they do say an M plate, don't be surprised.
    For your purposes, they are the same thing, a club permit.
    It may depend on the 'Club' you join.
    Some are concerned about anything non-original and will not sign it off on a H plate.

    Start looking for a Club asap. Most aren't interested in someone joining just to get a Club Permit and then not taking part in meetings, events etc. Check with them before joining that your vehicle will be accepted otherwise look for another club......


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    I'm just about to apply for a RWC for my S1 1958
    My car doesn't have belts mirrors or blinkers and the local tester is unsure if it requires them or not. Are there any sympathetic testers around Melbourne that know series one's or at least older cars and the regulations for those cars?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactipus View Post
    I'm just about to apply for a RWC for my S1 1958
    My car doesn't have belts mirrors or blinkers and the local tester is unsure if it requires them or not. Are there any sympathetic testers around Melbourne that know series one's or at least older cars and the regulations for those cars?

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    Richard
    Ring Vicroads and ask them; if they say you need them, ask for the regulation numbers etc. to make sure that they are not just making it up.

    Look up the ADR's for your year model on the National website and you will see that for 1958, seat-belts and blinkers are not mandatory, I don't know about mirrors. State legislation is in addition to ADR's hence the need to ring Vicroads.

    When you know the rules, go back to your tester armed with copies of the regs and relevant names and phone numbers for him to ring, if he doesn't believe you,

    Cheers Charlie

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazza View Post
    Ring Vicroads and ask them; if they say you need them, ask for the regulation numbers etc. to make sure that they are not just making it up.

    Look up the ADR's for your year model on the National website and you will see that for 1958, seat-belts and blinkers are not mandatory, I don't know about mirrors. State legislation is in addition to ADR's hence the need to ring Vicroads.

    When you know the rules, go back to your tester armed with copies of the regs and relevant names and phone numbers for him to ring, if he doesn't believe you,

    Cheers Charlie
    Unless I am mistaken, ADRs did not exist during S1 production. Equipment will be specified by state regulations, and these will vary from state to state. Hence the advice to talk to Vicroads (or the relevant state authority) and insist on references to the regulations for the specific date. Almost none of the regulations have ever been retrospective (only one I can think of is the requirement for rear reflectors in NSW). However, when non period equipment is fitted, latest rules may apply, for example, seat belts.

    For Series 1, blinkers and seat belts were definitely not required, and external mirrors were not then required for cars but were for utes (RH only), so Landrovers will be uncertain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactipus View Post
    I'm just about to apply for a RWC for my S1 1958
    My car doesn't have belts mirrors or blinkers and the local tester is unsure if it requires them or not. Are there any sympathetic testers around Melbourne that know series one's or at least older cars and the regulations for those cars?

    Cheers

    Richard
    hi a 1958 si came out with a right hand wing mirror at factory jim
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    As per https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/

    The First Edition ADRs were distributed for discussion purposes. However, they were not adopted as a legally binding set of standards under either national or state/territory law.
    The Second Edition ADRs first came into effect on 1 January 1969.

    More on ADR requirements and information on Vehicle standards in Victoria.
    see attached PDF

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactipus View Post
    I'm just about to apply for a RWC for my S1 1958
    My car doesn't have belts mirrors or blinkers and the local tester is unsure if it requires them or not. Are there any sympathetic testers around Melbourne that know series one's or at least older cars and the regulations for those cars?

    Cheers

    Richard
    Put blinkers on otherwise ur a moving death trap, seat belts will need to be engineered in Vic and u realy need mirrors to, that is unless ur not driving it.
    You could technically get away with one wiper, no blinkers and posibly no mirrors but I wouldn't feel safe in it
    Cheers mark
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