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    The Restoration Begins

    Hi all,

    I have just started a restoration of a 1951 80" Land Rover and I am not sure which way to go with it? Help

    I am not after a concourse finish, just a reliable classic car that will function as a daily/weekly driver.

    It has had a 2.25lt motor and I think, similar vintage gearbox fitted. (what a shame)

    S/N's are:

    2.25lt engine: 25338045K
    Gearbox: 156900273

    I know you all like photo's so I have included some, of its current configuration:

    DSC03497.JPG

    DSC03498.JPG

    I do have the original 1.6lt engine, although it appears seized, It is probably salvageable. I don't have the carby for this motor, nor gearbox, nor flywheel etc.

    Can anyone confirm that the current gearbox that is fitted is not compatible with the 1.6lt motor? (The chassis mounts for it appear home made)

    and,

    Is it worth persisting with the restoration of the 1.6lt motor, noting that I am missing many add on bits, including the gearbox? (anyone got some spare bits)

    Or,

    Should I just do up the 2.25lt, noting the 'more power' option?, however I am a little concerned as to the home made job of mounting the engine and gearbox to the chassis. Also the alignment to the rear axle etc.

    Regards

    Wal

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    Hi,
    Had a quick look and think this is correct:
    Your engine is from sequence 253xxxxxA-onwards and signifies a Series 2A (1962-on) 2.25 litre petrol, Export, RH Steering, CKD (Completely Knocked Down kit assembled in an overseas factory in this case likely Australia!), 109" wheelbase vehicle.
    The gearbox 1569xxxxx is from a 1959 Series 2 diesel engined 109" wheelbase vehicle.
    There's a bit of the puzzle.
    Let us know the engine; chassis and body numbers if they are different; and when you have cleaned up the diff casings they are also numbered on the top of the casing and can be deciphered. Later ones are wider.
    There is a good chance that the front diff will hit the 2.25litre motor - that is why the wheelbase was increased in the later series 1s to 88"
    The bellhousing on a 1.6 is different - (the same as the Land Rover 6 cyl motor) so would have to be changed to use the gearbox you have if you want to fit the original motor.
    Regards,
    Bob

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    olmate Guest
    Gday Wal,

    Well mate - you doing what I want to end up doing Good luck and enjoy it; there will be heaps of blokes here able to help along the way and heaps of others (like me) watching the progress.

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    Thanks Troy,

    I have been watching your progress too, and you are doing very well. ol_ute is comming together great.

    I note that you are in the Service, same here mate, only I'm in the Senior Service!! (I wont hold that against you)

    Next time I am heading your way we will have to catch up for some

    Regards,

    Wal

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    Look out Troy the Walster will have you on phizzer if yours is better!, definately the right place for help and cheek and the odd laugh or 3

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    olmate Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Walster View Post
    Thanks Troy,

    I have been watching your progress too, and you are doing very well. ol_ute is comming together great.

    I note that you are in the Service, same here mate, only I'm in the Senior Service!! (I wont hold that against you)

    Next time I am heading your way we will have to catch up for some

    Regards,

    Wal
    Wal, The things we do when we are too lazy to find a real job. In fact both my brothers and I did the same thing (with the sister going into that other service for a while). So Senior Service hey.. Will be great to catchup for a beer or three and talk about things 'in the puss' - is that how you say it?

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    Hey Troy,

    "The pussers bus is the bus for us"

    Look forward to spinning some yarns over a few beers. I just found a great web site in the USA called 'Singing Camel Land Rovers' (no plug intended) who has a great range of photos of a 1951 80" restoration.

    I can see the difference between my gearbox and the correct one, however the gearbox mounts appear to be the same, so I am guessing that I was wrong to call my ones homemade.

    From closer inspection of my current 2.25lt engine, it has been mounted with the standard rover engine mounts (off the 1.6lt) with just a 1/4 inch packer between the RHS mount and chassis.

    It fits pretty good, anyone else seen a 2.25 into a 80"?

    Regards

    Wal

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    Pussers? you mean Port hole peepers!

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    I like to watch

    Regards

    Wal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walster View Post
    I like to watch

    Regards

    Wal
    Now Wal you are concerning me - next thing it will be the golden rivet

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