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    Series 1 Springs

    All the springs on my 88 have sagged - so much so that they have punched holes into the bottom of the chassis. I need to get new springs but have a complete set lying around the back yard that may be suitable with cleaning.

    What I need to know is what is the distance between the centres of the spring eyes on the front and rear springs in the unloaded state. If these springs are close I will use them, if not I will look for alternatives.

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    Gary

    The spring lengths on the front of the 80"(from late 1950), all 86" and all 88" right up to the end of Series 3 are the same.

    Similarly for the rear springs from the 86" and 88" through end of Series 3. The issues you will have is the static load of the later springs, particularly if they have locally made replacement leaves. It may require you to remove some leaves or use later main and secondary leaves and your original tertiary etc leaves.

    The following is a comparison from the SIII manual (I don't have an S1 manual at work), however the S1 have less leaves because of the lighter 2 litre engine. Although the 2 litre diesel and those with a capstan winch fitted had similar specs to the S2 and for both the S2 diesel.



    Diana

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    Thanks Diana - do you know if those lengths are length of spring overall or from spring eye to eye?

    Garry
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    1973 Haflinger AP700
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    1957 Series 1 88"
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    Gary

    When they measure semi-eliptic springs they are measured with the spring flat and measured from eye centre to eye centre as in "B" below.



    (The above is for the rear springs of the 80", but the only example I have in my Photobucket.

    Diana

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    Sorry - getting confused as my springs are not flat but curved - I guess these are the specs before the steel is curved. I went out and measured my springs and it would seem that the curved overall length is 36.25". (not eye to eye)

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    1957 Series 1 88"
    1957 Series 1 88" Station Wagon

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    That's correct Gary, your springs should not be flat. Flat is however the standard way they measure them. Whether they measure them before setting or flatten them out with a press or something I don't know.

    What I will do, is what I should have done last night is scan the page from the SI book and post it up. You will have to wait until around 24:00 hrs though.

    C ya
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    86 & 88 Front




    86 & 88 Rear




    Hope this helps

    Diana

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    Thanks Diana - have saved those docs for future reference - looks like my spare springs are OK - at least in the unloaded state - I will clean them up and see how they go.

    Thanks

    Garry
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    1977 FC 101
    1976 Jaguar XJ12C
    1973 Haflinger AP700
    1971 Jaguar V12 E-Type Series 3 Roadster
    1957 Series 1 88"
    1957 Series 1 88" Station Wagon

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    While on the subject, how about the specs for 107' and 109'.

    My 109 has a busted rear top spring, and I need to find a replacement.

    CC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col.Coleman View Post
    While on the subject, how about the specs for 107' and 109'.

    My 109 has a busted rear top spring, and I need to find a replacement.

    CC
    Don't know if my interest can be stretched to 107"!

    Front 107 & 109

    The diagram for the front is the same as the 86" & 88"

    Rear 107 & 109






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