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    Garry

    If you are close enough to measure and there are no mudguards, just look at the bottom mounting for the front bumper bar.

    If the bottom bracket is wider than the chassis rail then its a 86" or 107" and if the bracket needs to be narrower than the chassis rail to fit between the side plates then its am 88" or 109".

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    86" to 88"

    Most of what has been stated is true but all have missed a major difference.
    The bonnet hinges are different.
    Dennis.

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    Hi there Dennis

    Thanks I didnt realise........hope your keeping well

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennisS1 View Post
    Most of what has been stated is true but all have missed a major difference.
    The bonnet hinges are different.
    Dennis.
    How??
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    1976 Jaguar XJ12C
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    1957 Series 1 88"
    1957 Series 1 88" Station Wagon

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    If you're close enough to measure it with a tape measure, why not measure the wheelbase between the wheel centres. A dead giveaway
    Numpty

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    ?

    ooor: never thought of that, but if you had to identify one from a Google earth shot then you could use the length of the bonnet or bonnet hinges.
    Dennis

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    How??
    Answer please!!
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    1976 Jaguar XJ12C
    1973 Haflinger AP700
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    1957 Series 1 88"
    1957 Series 1 88" Station Wagon

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    From memory, the radiator support panel behind the grille is different. 86s and 107s have about four openings while the 88s and 109s only have one. Unfortunately, though, they are interchangeable I think. The only visible way to tell is the spring hangers. If the bumper mount bolts are well in front of the spring eyes it's an 86/107, if they're above the spring eyes it's an 88/109. There were never any 109 Series 1 wagons, which is the only unambiguous model.

    I once saw an 86 which had an 88 guard on one side. The bolt for the stay behind the wheel arch is the most visible tell-tale on them.

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    69 2a 88" pet4, 74 3 109" pet4, 68 2b FC pet6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennisS1 View Post
    Most of what has been stated is true but all have missed a major difference.
    The bonnet hinges are different.
    Dennis.
    If Dennis says that the hinges are different, I have to defer to his excellent 1954-1958 knowledge.

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    This is why

    As the bonnet is longer by about 1.5" or so and the frame is still the same they added the extra length to the back of the bonnet, thus so the bolts that hold the hinges on can still go thought the frame they had to grow a bit.
    As has already been pointed out here the two are quite easy to identify in pics as long as you can see an outside wing, and as the wings are not really compatible it is a much better guide then the floating axels, steering boxes, grills etc.
    Dennis

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