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    The angle is not specified, and is probably not critical, but closer to 20 degrees than 45. All the book says is "Chamfer both ends of each lining" (but as far as I can see it really only matters at the cylinder end)

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    i have chamfered the lining approx 20 degrees like you mentioned and i roughly measured what i could see in the diagram in the manual.
    you can see the chamfer on the brake lining in that side view diagram.

    ok turn the wheel foward and backward and the brake still catches when rolling it backwards it does it on both sides.

    The fronts dont do it at all, so i'll go tomorrow and buy new springs for the bottom because like you mentioned i could of over stretched them.

    thanks for your help,

    cheers Chris

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    hi all,

    ok i went this morning to buy a pair of new springs for each side of the rear brake shoes, just the bottom springs i got.

    i removed the existing ones and compared them to new and they had been stretched to approx 4-5mm difference.....! i fit new springs and put the drums back on i tried moving backwards and there was slight improvement.

    so i took the drums off and gave the top egde of the trailing shoe i light file. i also cleaned the drums with brake cleaner gave them a good wipe and put them back on. and it goes backwards.

    as mentioned in my steering thread, i took the Landy for a test drive this evening and besides good steering results the brakes work really well and and the brake booster makes a diffrence too.

    so i pull up back home and go to back up the driveway and i start to reverse and the rear brakes start to grab again but they don't lock completley they have a slight grab and make squeling noise.

    the only thing i can think of now is to change the shoes because they did get soaked in fluid when the first set of cylinders leaked. i did clean them but maybe they expanded. has anyone ever had this problem before?

    no major leaks yet just noticced a bit of fluid on each side at the bottom of the backing plate but no drops on the floor. i only noticed fluid from the pipe unions into the cylinders so ill give them a tighten.

    ill get there in the end just gota keep trying.....!

    cheers,

    Chris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris1983rangie View Post
    hi all,

    ok i went this morning to buy a pair of new springs for each side of the rear brake shoes, just the bottom springs i got.

    i removed the existing ones and compared them to new and they had been stretched to approx 4-5mm difference.....! i fit new springs and put the drums back on i tried moving backwards and there was slight improvement.

    so i took the drums off and gave the top egde of the trailing shoe i light file. i also cleaned the drums with brake cleaner gave them a good wipe and put them back on. and it goes backwards.

    as mentioned in my steering thread, i took the Landy for a test drive this evening and besides good steering results the brakes work really well and and the brake booster makes a diffrence too.

    so i pull up back home and go to back up the driveway and i start to reverse and the rear brakes start to grab again but they don't lock completley they have a slight grab and make squeling noise.

    the only thing i can think of now is to change the shoes because they did get soaked in fluid when the first set of cylinders leaked. i did clean them but maybe they expanded. has anyone ever had this problem before?

    no major leaks yet just noticced a bit of fluid on each side at the bottom of the backing plate but no drops on the floor. i only noticed fluid from the pipe unions into the cylinders so ill give them a tighten.

    ill get there in the end just gota keep trying.....!

    cheers,

    Chris.
    Good luck Chris.do the shoes look 'thicker' since being drenched in fluid?

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    hello Grockle,

    im not sure if they look thicker but i have been told they can swell if they get soaked in fluid. ill replace the shoes and hope this sorts out my problem.

    cheers,

    Chris

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    Something's wrong, Chris. Surely it won't be swelling of the lining. Are the shoes originals, or after-market ones? I wonder if they are slightly longer than standard, or something like that? Can you photograph one of your assemblies in situ with the drum off?

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    Hi Lane,

    yeah ill take a series of photos for you and post them on the thread as soon as i get a chance. yeah i got a feeling they could be the wrong type and yes they are after market ones.

    i still have my origonal drums and 4 good sets of shoes that come off the Landy origionally i kept them as spares. they are oversized drums with oversized shoes and they still have plenty of meat on them. Do you think it would matter if i put the old O/S drums back on the rear axle with its matching O/S shoes? although the fronts are new?
    what do you think?

    thanks for your help,

    cheers,

    Chris

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    As long as the shoes match the radius of the drums, they should be fine. You know you can get shoes re-lined?

    I really feel for you. Such a lovely car and it must be frustrating to have purchased brand new gear which turns out to be out of spec or poor quality!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris1983rangie View Post
    Hi Lane,

    yeah ill take a series of photos for you and post them on the thread as soon as i get a chance. yeah i got a feeling they could be the wrong type and yes they are after market ones.

    i still have my origonal drums and 4 good sets of shoes that come off the Landy origionally i kept them as spares. they are oversized drums with oversized shoes and they still have plenty of meat on them. Do you think it would matter if i put the old O/S drums back on the rear axle with its matching O/S shoes? although the fronts are new?
    what do you think?

    thanks for your help,

    cheers,

    Chris

    No problems. As long as the shoes match the drums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lane View Post
    As long as the shoes match the radius of the drums, they should be fine. You know you can get shoes re-lined?

    I really feel for you. Such a lovely car and it must be frustrating to have purchased brand new gear which turns out to be out of spec or poor quality!
    yep, i can get them relined if need be thats good to know, ill try my O/S drums and shoes first and see what happens from there on.

    what can i say, yes it is fustrating and the fact that there is such crap out there on the market especially brake items quality items have long deminished......!

    so i guess i goto keep pressing on and stay positive.

    no worries mate,

    cheers

    Chris



    but just have to keep on going

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