Thread: Capstan winches information required

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Scarry

The pics of the AEH . V . winch (above) is the capstan winch fitted to Max Hill's ex-QATB 107 wagon which is believed to be the original fitting up to and including the tubes through the chassis. Unless a vehicle is currently still in the hands of the original owner who has perfect memory or there is documentary evidence of configuration at original sale with an unbroken chain of evidence, the best anyone can say is that something like a winch is believed to be the original fitment.


Diana

The vehicle in question is now owned by the son who's father purchased the vehicle from the factory & has the documentary evidence of the original sale .
The vehicle has only been owned by the two people from the one family,& anything that was done to it has been documented,including servicing,tyres,etc.

From the documentation,i can also tell you that the capstan winch cost 41 pounds,and prep work to receive the winch cost an extra 10 shillings.(i think i got the currency correct)

Originally Posted by scarry

The vehicle in question is now owned by the son who's father purchased the vehicle from the factory & has the documentary evidence of the original sale .
The vehicle has only been owned by the two people from the one family,& anything that was done to it has been documented,including servicing,tyres,etc.

From the documentation,i can also tell you that the capstan winch cost 41 pounds,and prep work to receive the winch cost an extra 10 shillings.(i think i got the currency correct)

Hi Paul,

That's a good pedigree then What year is the vehicle and date on the receipt?

Is it possible for you to get some photos?

Best guess at this time is that it would be an AEH.V stamped unit. Sometimes they have the stamping repeated on the main body.

Bob

I know a little bit about war time and early jeeps.
Most jeeps from 1942 to 1972 could be interchanged with the same winches and PTO equipment.
The reason is the chassis and , motors and transmission changed very little in that time.
The jeeps like Landrover were developed for the post war farm shortages to one of a small universal farm tractor.
As a option your new post war jeep could be ordered from the factory with a capstan, or drum winch, or three point linkage, and ptos for generators, air compressors .etc.
On my 1960 Australian willys jeep with hurricane motor I have a pto drum winch which came from a 1955 CJ3b and the winch would be a almost straight bolt on fit to a war time jeep.
Interestingly I also have a Toro overdrive fitted and I know fairly overdrives were fitted too.
Except for the casting and gear differences for a different transmission the overdrives are the same as used on rover.
Both landrover and jeep had good interchangeability with in brands, between models with only small mods required.
Just like we transfer a electric winch today from vehicle to vehicle as we up grade today .
Many different brands of types and equiptment were used on both vehicles and as far as I am concerned if it a period fitting to the vehicle it is correct.

Originally Posted by bobslandies

Hi Paul,

That's a good pedigree then What year is the vehicle and date on the receipt?

Is it possible for you to get some photos?

Best guess at this time is that it would be an AEH.V stamped unit. Sometimes they have the stamping repeated on the main body.

Bob

Registered 17 july 1956,delivered,25 july 1956,price without rego,& extras 615 pounds.

I can try to get photos,but may take a while.

I know I have come in late but,as I am the owner of the 1956 vehicle in this thread (which was handed down to me from my father)I would like to add the following:
The winch fitted has the markings AEH.P.18. stamped 3 times into the alloy housing along with AEH and a 9 in a circle also stamped in.The housing is flat at the front and rear and only has 2 drain holes below the bollard.
In the comprehensive log book for the vehicle I can only see 2 entries for winch repairs so can only assume it is still the original one fitted prior to delivery in July 1956.
Hand written entries in the log book are as follows:11.10.56 /4900 miles /Winch worm and drive seals replaced,
1976 /162000 miles/ Winch stripped,cleaned + seals.
Hope this sheds some more light on the "which winch" issue

Aeroparts rear Capstan winch was available to fit onto rear PTO, where belt pulley is sometimes fitted.


On my old 80" I also had Belt Pulley for it.

My landy also had Aeroparts front Capstan winch, and the lower hydraulic power take off was fitted, so I could retain the top PTO to drive the rear winch/ belt pulley. Top photo shows bottom Hydraulic power take off powering a log splitter that I have improvised to push the swivel pins into a Unipower axle ball end.


I have dropped the Landy onto a butress tree root. It is between my tyre and the bodywork. I had to use front and rear capstan winches in turn to drag the 80 sideways a foot or two to clear this root, before I could drive out.

An Iso-Speedic centrifugal engine speed governor finished the spec.

My rear winch was stamped AEH 189


See here for another example of rear Aeroparts capstan winch
http://www.4wdonline.com/Equip/winches.html

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My front winch was stamped AEH. D. 5117

Above is an Aeroparts manual. I got it from Peak Engineering, Hereford. who bought out Aeroparts. I guess I visited their factory in 1987 shortly after the takeover, but the guy I talked to was ex Aeroparts, and very helpful. They guy I bought my front winch from didn't know its age or what it had previously been fitted to.