Thread: Brake Hoses

Originally Posted by Scallops

Hello Folks,

I'm going through my brakes and replacing the brake hoses, shoes and wheel cylinders. I have only looked at the front passenger side wheel so far - the brake hose was a male to female.

Is that normal (ie as original) for a 86/88 S1?

The brake flexible hoses should be male at both ends - one end screws into the cylinder or tee on the axle housing at the back, the other into a union on the fixed pipe plus a nut to clamp it to the chassis bracket. Looking at my books, all Series Landrovers have the same setup. (but hose lengths differ as do the threads on the unions and wheel cylinders)

John

Scallops,
John is right, they should be male-to-male hoses. Mine were and that is what they have been replaced with.

One trap that I found was the threading at the chassis end. The old ones that came off my 86" were threaded all the way to the end of the fitting. With the new ones I bought, the thread stopped approx 4mm from the end of the fitting. This meant that the only new female fittings I could get would only engage onto the thread by about two turns. I ended up having to recover and reuse the old female fittings that were approx 5mm longer and therefore engaged onto the threaded end by a few more turns.

Cheers,
Chris

I guess mine have been replaced then. It's the chassis end that is female, so the chassis brake line must have also been replaced, I guess.

I'd say that is right - up to you whether you replace the chassis pipes - although another possibility would be to find, make, or get made an adapter to return to standard hoses.

John

Yes, thanks John. Are male female brake hoses harder to get? Because if they are not, I might just leave it as is and get suitable, but unoriginal, replacements.

Originally Posted by Scallops

Yes, thanks John. Are male female brake hoses harder to get? Because if they are not, I might just leave it as is and get suitable, but unoriginal, replacements.

I have no idea - for obvious reasons, I have never tried to get them! Best suggestion is to talk to a local brake specialist, preferably with a sample in hand - it is quite possible they fit something common. But in many cases the best solution, even with the originals, is to get them made up. Again, a local brake specialist will advise you.

John

Hi Dan,
I checked mine last night and they are male on each end. I am pretty sure the reason for the male on the inboard end is that the male thread is anchored by a locknut to the flange on the axle casing. This relieves the stresses on the thread when the vehicle turns. With a female the thread itself is stressed by the stearing action.

I replaced mine several years ago, everything except the multiway unions and the slave cyls. It was very easy but I was working on a rolling chassis. Any good brake specialist especially one that specialises in old vehicles can make up the fixed pipes to match the originals even if you had to cut them off which I did. You may find the flexibles are off the shelf otherwise they will make them. I know it is a bit out of your way but BHSS at Capalaba are the best. They do a wonderful job on old Girling master cylinders.

Hope this helps, Paul

This is the brake line off Dan's Matilda. N/S front.

The female end was fitted to the solid brake line on the chassis and had no lock nut holding it in position. (Loose fitting which was a bit sus.) although it does resemble the part in the book (part #20).

Regards
Glen