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    Bunjeel Guest

    Help wanted on IIA history

    Hi, I’m a new member and I hope someone can help me find out more about the history of my SWB Series IIA which I’ve had for 4 years. The chassis no. (on the rear left chassis member) is 2430988 – and that’s all. If there was any more, it’s no longer there due to corrosion and abrasion. It has no VIN or any other numbers, plates or marks anywhere. (It has a 186S red motor so the engine no. is no use). It never had an ignition switch as far as I can tell but it has a big red switch on the side of the central instrument panel which looks original. It’s been rebuilt and modified from the chassis up, maybe in the 1980’s with a Holden motor and Toyota Crown buckets and steering column, wheel and stalks, all new wiring and instrumentation. Apparently done by an engineer in the Kilsyth area (Vic) who is now deceased. It has 2 x 40 litre fuel tanks switchable from under the front seat. It has a single braking system with 11” brakes on the front with Cutlas Powerlock hubs (as on Jeep CJ-3As). First registered in 1971 but it looks like an earlier build than that. Both wipers run off a single motor via a reciprocating rod across the bottom of the windscreen. Hi cut guards but not sure if they’re original. The engine bay is the standard dark green colour. I’d like to know what year it was made and if it’s a civvy version. I’m not fussed about the mods but I’d like to know who did them – he deserves to be remembered for doing a damn good job.
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    d@rk51d3 Guest
    Welcome to the forums. That's a nice litlle shorty you have there.

    Rear x-member indicates a civvy model. Looks good nonetheless.

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    You need 8 numbers with a letter...you only have 7

    If the 243 is the begining of the chassis No you own between a 1962- 1971series IIa if you can see a letter at the end that will norrow it down a bit more

    High cut guards are ex-mil...photo would be good of the dash as the models changed a lot in a few years...


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    Thanks for your help so far. The last bit of the chassis no. is completely gone. I've attached a photo of the interior - note the Toyota steering wheel and seats. I added the Shintoa heater and the old big red 'go' switch is hidden behind the aluminum panel on the right of the dash. Apparently the engineer who did the conversion was named George and lived in Bayswater (Vic). Hoping somebody might know something....


    Quote Originally Posted by The ho har's View Post
    You need 8 numbers with a letter...you only have 7

    If the 243 is the begining of the chassis No you own between a 1962- 1971series IIa if you can see a letter at the end that will norrow it down a bit more

    High cut guards are ex-mil...photo would be good of the dash as the models changed a lot in a few years...


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    The 2430 is correct for an SIIa 88 of about 1964-66 but without the last digit and suffix letter it's impossible to tell.

    What chassis number (VIN) is shown on the rego papers?

    Have you tried lightly linishing the chassis number surface with a flat file, it may remove later corrosion and reveal the remnants of the missing digits!

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    G'day Bunjeel

    Iwould put that vehicle at 1960, as the first 2a 88's with the 2.25 motor RHD CKD units started at 2430 0001A and it would yours as the 988? th vehicle built in that chassis suffix number probably built in late 59 but as a 1960 model.

    The windscreen frame tells me that it was originally seperate wipers and has been converted to cable drive possibly from a 67 onwards 2a.with similar windscreen vent levers.

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleHo View Post
    G'day Bunjeel

    Iwould put that vehicle at 1960, as the first 2a 88's with the 2.25 motor RHD CKD units started at 2430 0001A and it would yours as the 988? <snip>
    Uncle Ho

    I would like to agree with you, unfortunately my books don't agree with your information.

    In series II 88" models the prefix was 143 and the fourth digit indicated the year, making a 1960 88" "1430"

    The series IIa were released in 1962 and only then did the first digit in the prefix change from "1" to "2" which makes a vehicle commencing with "243" a series IIa with a delivery date of 1962 or later.

    In NSW the 24309XXX Z range of numbers were dispatched in May and June 1966

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    G'day Lotz-A-Landies

    I am only working from the Master Parts book p/n 605957 Dec 1968, and the list from Fast Moving and Collision Parts RTC-9300 1973 and they list 2430 0001A as 88 series 2a fitted with 2.25 motor, and going by the previous years listings where the 4th digit denoted the year model 8=58 9=59 0=60 1=61, I would have taken it to be a RHD CKD Series 2a 88 with 2.25 motor of the 1960 year model

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleHo View Post
    G'day Lotz-A-Landies

    I am only working from the Master Parts book p/n 605957 Dec 1968, and the list from Fast Moving and Collision Parts RTC-9300 1973 and they list 2430 0001A as 88 series 2a fitted with 2.25 motor, and going by the previous years listings where the 4th digit denoted the year model 8=58 9=59 0=60 1=61, I would have taken it to be a RHD CKD Series 2a 88 with 2.25 motor of the 1960 year model

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    Well someone or something is in error.

    According to the NSW Grenville Motors Allocations Books:
    • 1960 88" petrol Land Rovers had "143 0 XXXXX" series numbers. The last 1959 model ("143 9 01798") was sold on 24th November 1959.
    • The first 1961 model "143 1 00001" was delivered to the Snowy Mountains Hydro-Electricity Commission on the 6th January 1961.
    • The first "243" prefix vehicle ("2430 0001A") was sold to the NSW Government Stores, for the Forestry Commission, with NSW Rego COS-132 on the 12th February 1962

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    G'day Lotz-A-Landies

    Hi Diana, well it goes to show that there is a time gap in what was the english printed books (for world use) and the sequence of the Australian CKD vehicles, with the Series 2's still into the showrooms/sales well into 1961,and the 2a's becoming available when the 2's dried up, this is similar to the release dates for the Range Rover in Aust,1971(UK-June 1970) and the Disco 1991, when the Disco was on sale in UK in 1989.


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