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    Advice on rust and rego please?

    Hi Guys
    I am fairly new to the Land Rover badge.
    Bought our first Fender in 2008 (Puma).
    Since then I have noticed the series vehicles and looked closely at a few at a couple of expos we have been to.
    I have found one for sale and I have a couple of questions.
    It is 1964 Series IIA (I think)

    1. Rust- see attached photos- is this repairable for someone who knows what they are doing? (not me- I would have to have to get this done professionally)? There is also some rust in the front chassis in front of the front spring hanger.
    2. If yes, is there a bodyworks in Sydney anyone could recommend?
    3. Rego- expires in August. The car checks out ok with REVS and Vehicle History Check by RTA, however the rego papers have a different engine number and chassis number than both of those stamped on the engine and on the plate on the inside firewall of the car. Is this going to be an issue for change over of rego? The current owner has owned the car for 10 years and said he, nor anyone else, had not noticed the numbers did not match up.
    Thanks in advance .
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    Hi Green Hornet,
    Land Vehicle Spares is one place in the Sydney region that will undertake repairs on vehicles like that, they do minor repairs all the way to full 'open chequebook' restorations as I understand it.

    Does the firewall plate match the chassis number stamped on the left hand rearmost spring hanger?

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    From memory, repair plates are available for those rusty areas on the firewall. Cut the old ones out, and weld the new ones in.

    The pillars are part# P13Z (firewall door support panel) from Four Wheel Drives, and will set you back about $150.00 per side. It could be cheaper to just source another firewall later.

    As for rego, If it's a landy motor, you should be able to go in and just register an engine change (and give them the right number as the new engine), which will then issue the correct number on the rego. I'm not sure on the rules over there, but a "same for same" engine swap here won't need to be inspected. If it's a Holden motor in there, it could get a bit more tricky.

    Have you checked the chassis number on the rear passenger spring hanger, just to cross reference? Maybe someone has switched ID plates? Could also be that somebody wrote off the original vehicle, and just switched the number plates to a similar vehicle.

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    Thanks Guys.
    I did not know where else to check for the numbers, so I will ask the seller to do that and report back.
    Thanks for the advice re the door pillars and rust repairer too.
    The engine is a Land Rover engine and the seller thought it was original.
    The vehicle drives well enough for its age.
    Asking price is $1500, fair price?

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    Did you check the rear chassis crossmember for rust too? This is a bad spot for it.
    My 2a was around $1650 without rego, it had/has some rust in it but I think it was slightly less than yours has, and mostly in the rear crossmember. So $1500 is probably a reasonable price as long as nothing else substantial rears its uglies. You will pay a little more in buying a Series in suburbia than elsewhere-supply/demand and all that.

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    Thanks, the rear cross member checked out OK- no rust I could see.

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    The number that will be checked for changeover is the one on the chassis, probably more attention paid to that than the engine. Call the RTA to check exactly what is required.

    Is the number on the papers very close to the one on the vehicle? I had a problem where the RTA had one digit wrong on my papers, eventually got them to admit it was their error.

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    Thanks JDNSW, the numbers on the rego papers are not close to the chassis or engine numbers, so I don't suspect it is a typo or RTA mistake.

    Funny thing- My 2005 falcon ute has a bench seat and is plated as a 3 seater, but the rego papers say registered to seat 2- I should get that fixed when I am talking to the RTA if I go ahead with the series purchase.

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    Ok.
    Update from the seller.
    The number on the rear passenger side hanger is the same as the number stamped on the plate inside the vehicle.
    Does this help?
    The rego papers still have different numbers to the chassis and engine, but at least the 2 chassis numbers correlate, so probably the original chassis?
    Engine could have been swapped out at any time and rego not updated to reflect change, so I guess I am back to:
    1. Sorting out the rust and
    2. Having a chat with the RTA
    What are the chances of a mechanic picking up the number discrepancy when I get a pink slip?
    Or is the real issue insurance if there is a need to make a claim?

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    Engine number is probably the least of your worries.

    Looks like you have one vehicle, being run on another vehicles rego. Could only lead to trouble.

    I'd give the rego department a ring, tell them you're looking at purchasing a vehicle, give them the real numbers on the vehicle, (chassis, engine, and possibly number plate) and you may get lucky.

    You may be able to purchase it as an unregistered vehicle, fill in the forms and get it entered freshly into the system in your name.

    Going to be tricky though.

    You could also try the local police station. They would have access to all the relevant details, and you might find a sympathetic ear.

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