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    11 seater rego

    Well I'm having a bit of a frustrating morning dealing with the QLD Transport office. I'm told that to register my serIIA 109" for the full 11 seats, I need to pay extra and register it as a minibus.

    They say I can only register it with the number stated on the compliance plate, and if I want to change the number of seats, I need to make it physically impossible for the seats to be refitted, and pay for an engineer to plate it.

    My problems with this:
    1. I have no compliance plate on my 1968 rover that says how many it seats
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    2. I have removable bench seats (optional extra) in the back... how am I supposed to make it impossible to refit these?

    Why do I constantly feel like I'm being restricted by QLD road rules?

    What are other peoples' experiences here?

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    You have my sympathy. In NSW over 9 seats requires registration as a minibus, with six monthly inspections.

    You should point out to them that it has no compliance plate and was not required to have one when manufactured. Perhaps they could point out to you the legislation or regulations that made this requirement retrospective? (I am pretty sure they can't!). You should be able to find someone in the department who can talk intelligently about it, but I doubt you can register it with 11 seats except as a minibus.

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    Have you obtained a safety certificate yet? If not, then simply remove at least 1 seat before taking it to get the safety cert.

    If you already have a safety cert saying it has eleven seats fitted, then you will have to remove 1 seat , plug the holes and get a mod plate.

    You simply need to remove the seat, belts (if fitted) and plug the holes suitably. There is no requirement to render the seat "unable to be refitted" that I have read anywhere.

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    It's not currently registered, and I haven't even had the safety inspection yet. I was just surprised when I called up to get CTP, and found out they wanted an extra $124p/a for CTP alone, just to have more than 8 seats. Nobody seams to understand that there is no compliance plate, and there is no coherent reply when I explain the nature of the seating.

    Considering the likelihood of carrying 11 people (very slim), I think I'll just register it with two of the benches in the back, and register for 7.

    I guess more than anything, I'm just a bit upset that I'm being molded in to place once again, by blanket laws that don't cater for my situation. I suppose the real question I should be asking is, why is there no registration class for a troop carrier?

    Anyway, I'll make my calls now, I suppose, and see if I can get that thing registered today. Wish me luck!

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    I currently run a 10 seater Defender in QLD and get slugged the extra CTP. If don't want to pay it then you need to drop it back to 8 seater or less. Anything over this is regarded as a Mine bus.
    If it has previously been registered as an 11 seater then you will probably still need to get the compliance plate to say its only an 8 (or less) or when you go to register it you will have issues. In saying that its fairly easy to get a compliance plate for less seats compated to more seats.

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    ...So now they tell me I would have to register it for 3, and then have a plate put on to make it compliant for 7. It's looking more and more like I'm going to have to change my upcoming holiday plans, or leave a couple of people behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudpiggy View Post
    ...So now they tell me I would have to register it for 3, and then have a plate put on to make it compliant for 7. It's looking more and more like I'm going to have to change my upcoming holiday plans, or leave a couple of people behind.
    How do they justify that?

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    Just sent you a PM on someone to talk to who might be able to help.

    Cheers Ian

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    Bus rego

    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    You have my sympathy. In NSW over 9 seats requires registration as a minibus, with six monthly inspections.
    I don't know if they've closed the loophole, but years ago, if it was registered as a bus then you could stop in bus stops. I would find out how you stand before doing it in each state! Bear in mind also the distinction between bus registration, & paying more CTP because of the extra seating capacity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudpiggy View Post
    ...So now they tell me I would have to register it for 3, and then have a plate put on to make it compliant for 7. It's looking more and more like I'm going to have to change my upcoming holiday plans, or leave a couple of people behind.
    Do you have the docs from when it was last registered?

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