G"day All. Rebuilding my 2.25 petrol and I wish to paint it the Duck Egg Blue or similar colour before it goes back in. What paint do I use and where do I get hold of it ? I'm near Melbourne , POR 15 has a brush on engine enamal colour Buick Green or a Chrysler Blue has anyone used either of these ? Thanks
Last edited by sisyphus; 2nd June 2012 at 05:41 PM.
Hello rom Brisbane.
Can't help with the codes or where to go but I note just about everyone calls the 3 bearing engine colour "duck egg blue".
I read in a UK manual somewhere that the colour is offically "Admiralty Grey". However, I guess I'll keep calling mine "duck egg blue" to avoid confusion........
Cheers,
There is a sticky thread (about 4 threads up from the bottom of the stickies) that has paint codes in it. Series II & IIa Paint Codes
It has a BS4800-16C33 code for Duck Egg Blue - you could ring some of the auto-paint suppliers and see if they will make up a pot of it for you. You would probably have to tell them it is engine paint.
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A reasonable similiar colour to that used by the Brit Army for engine re-builds is Detroit diesel alpine green, made by Dupli-color DE1618. (Yes its engine enamel)
As for the grey, the series I 1997cc engines were definately admiralty grey. Not heard it about the 2283cc SIIa engines though.
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SupporterWhilst the Holts range of paints was stocked by most plaves in the UK, I've never found it over here. SuperCheap list a couple of Holts fancy (sparkly) paints, but my local branch outright refused to even try to special order the Holts engine paint - apparently the "hazardous goods" tag on spray paint means they won't get involved.
On the other hand, the cylinder head of the '59 SII I'm working on is painted a colour that is very close to the VHT "Pontiac Blue" engine paint that PeterG recommended. Obviously I have no idea if that paint is original, but it's certainly been on there for many years. I haven't cleaned up the rest of the engine to see if any paint exists anywhere else!
Master
SupporterA couple of Google searches produced some colour charts. Obviously colours do not always translate perfectly from the screen, but the Holts colour appears far "greener" than the Duck Egg blue, as does the Detroit Alpine green.
The Duck Egg Blue is actually quite close to the blue of the '59 cylinder head. I've often been told that "duck egg blue" is really green, but from the colour charts on the web I'd disagree! I'd suggest that the DE1618 is closer to 14E53 "Irish Green"
BS 4800 Colour Chart
Duplicolor DE1618 Duplicolor Engine Enamel
Here is the PeterG paint 'test':
Paint for the engine
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Detroit Diesel Alpine Green seems to be available from Amazon!
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However you will need a US continental transshipping address or ay exorbitant shipping fees. You may also find that aerosol cans are prohibited articles for air mail.
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Hi sisyphus.
I get my paint mixed by Autobarn in Churnside Park, they have the old paint codes converted to their mixing system. You will need enamel, and they can also mix it in a spray pack. Not cheap at $30 a can but.
The BS4800-16C33 should be spot on.
Cheers Simon
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Will absolutely agree with you, Detroit Diesel Alpine Green it is not all that close to the duck egg blue, but is close to the colour used for Brit Army engines, including Land Rover.Originally Posted by Warb
As Peter G has found, both the natural or synthetic pigments can discolour when heated. This is why we need someone who can manufacture paints with ceramic tints, preferably in aerosol cans.
If anyone can find a paint supplier who will do that, I'd be happy to to buy a couple of cans of DEB. Perhaps we can find a LR parts supplier who will carry the rest of the batch.
Addit: My Detroit Diesel owner friend, who made the suggestion about it being used on Brit Army Land Rovers, Austin Champs and Daimler Ferret engines, has suggested the engine enamels used by his Detroit engine re-builder are manufactured by Phoenix Lacquers in Bankstown NSW. http://www.phoenixlacquersandpaints.com.au/ Its probably worth a call to them on Monday to see if they'll do a batch of duck egg blue in aerosol cans. Addit 2: sales enquiry email sent.
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